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[Resolution poll, first-past-the-post] Who do you think is the best living human, given consequentialism?
Bill Gates
Peter Singer
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Eliezer Yudkowsky
David Attenborough
Brian Tomasik
Donald Trump
Dustin Moskovitz
Greta Thunberg
Pope Leo XIV
Tim Berners-Lee
Dolly Parton
Edward Snowden
Elon Musk
Beyonce
Taylor Swift
Mr Beast
Drew Weissman
Katalin Karikó
Melinda French Gates
MacKenzie Scott
Barack Obama
Cari Tuna
Dario Amodei
Daniela Amodei
Sam Altman
Demis Hassabis
William MacAskill
Sam Bankman-Fried
Dalai Lama
Tu Youyou
Toby Ord
Warren Buffet
Keanu Reeves
Jane Fonda
Vitalik Buterin
King Charles III
Holden Karnofsky
Malala Yousafzai
Nadia Murad
Eatizaz Yousif
Scott Alexander
Paul Graham
Jessica Livingston
Adolfo Pérez Esquivel
Rigoberta Menchú
Luigi Mangione @LuigiMangione
George W Bush
Jacinda Ardern
Claudia Sheinbaum
Bernie sanders
Alexandria Ocasio Cortez
Geoffrey Hinton
Gabor Mate

Resolution polls for [Add options] Who will Manifold think is the best living human? (virtue ethics, deontology, consequentialism) :

After market close, for each ethical philosophy, I am creating a poll with all the eligible added market options, asking 'who do you think is the best living human, given [ethical philosophy]?'.

At the time of market creation, current Manifold polls only allowed first-past-the-post voting, so I'm sticking to that for market resolution, but may create duplicate polls with ranked choice later to see the difference in results.

Ranks 1 through 10 will earn 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 points respectively.

An option’s overall score is the sum of the points it receives across all three trait rankings.

The option with the highest overall score will be declared the winner of the market.

Vote tie-breaking will use the LM Arena approach of treating all candidates that are tied at a specific level as being at the same highest rank, but with them still taking up slots in the ranking, allowing spillover beyond 10 options e.g.

  1. 6 votes, gets 10 points

  2. 4 votes, gets 9 points

  1. 4 votes, gets 9 points

  1. 4 votes, gets 9 points

  1. 3 votes, gets 6 points

  2. 2 votes, gets 5 points

  1. 2 votes, gets 5 points

  1. 2 votes, gets 5 points

  1. 1 vote, gets 1 point

  1. 1 vote, gets 1 point

  1. 1 vote, gets 1 point

  1. 1 vote, gets 1 point

Ties in final score will lead to equally split percentage resolutions

Inspired by /AmmonLam/who-is-the-best-living-human-physic-tQn59pSuZt

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Consequentialism results:

  1. Bill Gates - 10 votes, gets 10 points

  2. Peter Singer - 5 votes, gets 9 points

  3. Eliezer Yudkowsky - 3 votes, gets 8 points

  1. David Attenborough - 3 votes, gets 8 points

  1. Brian Tomasik - 2 votes, gets 6 points

  2. Donald Trump - 1 vote, gets 5 points

  1. Dustin Moskovitz - 1 vote, gets 5 points

  1. Greta Thunberg - 1 vote, gets 5 points

  1. Pope Leo XIV - 1 vote, gets 5 points

  1. Tim Berners-Lee - 1 vote, gets 5 points

  1. Dolly Parton - 1 vote, gets 5 points

  1. Edward Snowden - 1 vote, gets 5 points

  1. Elon Musk - 1 vote, gets 5 points

  1. Beyonce - 1 vote, gets 5 points

Bill Gates has definitely alleviated the most suffering of any living person. But if longtermism is true, than the person who has caused the most people to go to Heaven has far outstripped Gates in QALY (Quality AfterLife Years)

@TiredCliche That assumes heaven exists

@vi Also assumes that Bill Gates exists.

@TiredCliche I'm not Christian, but if we grant that it's true, arguably funding contraception thus preventing births thus preventing people existing that will most likely end up in hell seems much more foolproof than guessing the correct denomination and trying to evangelise for it

@TheAllMemeingEye That argument does seem to hold, assuming longtermism AND Christianity AND the belief that most end up in Hell AND Hell is not annihilation. Of course, if the believer in all those things believes contraception is inherently sinful, then they may be putting their own afterlife at risk, in order to possibly prevent the possible suffering of possible children. And what about the children's children? That's a trolley problem for sure!

@TiredCliche aka Forrest Taylor. Pardon me if I mis-directed: from 4 days ago: Forrest wrote: "the person who has caused the most people to go to Heaven". It appears you do not mean "Jesus". Other than Jesus do you mean someone else? Or like a pilot that kills a bunch of people in a plane crash? And some of those go to Heaven? thanks!

@AnnCummings No, in another forum we ruled out people who had arguably died even partially before as "currently living."

I meant the person who caused or inspired the most other people to live meritorious and virtuous and good lives, and repent from their sins, before dying in a state of grace.

@AnnCummings (but before we get into a serious theological discussion, this comment was mostly a joke making fun of longtermism)

@TiredCliche Hey sorry about getting mixed up on your name: Pardon on that one for me: Okay, I see what you mean: Do you have an example? There are some fairly slim picking at the time, aren't there?

@TiredCliche Haha! No problem!!! Good for you. It is a bit starchy in here!!!

@AnnCummings Forrest is my name, this is just my username. I would say Pope Leo XVI would be a good example! He's definitely spent his career hearing confessions, dispensing advice, ministering to the sick, and catechizing other priests who go on to catechize the laity.

But you could definitely make arguments for non-religious do-gooders- Peter Singer has definitely inspired tens of thousands to reduce the suffering of others, etc.

@TiredCliche No problem: I didn't intend to offend you: They are on the list already! Like you cleared up: You are mostly joking! I am not certain of the meaning of "catechize", but I am sure it is very important. I have not heard of Mr. Singer but I did look him up: My favorite Singer is Marla Singer. Perhaps you have heard of her?

@AnnCummings I'm not offended! To "catechize" means to teach, in a religious or moral context. I'll have to look Marla Singer up, but right now I'm going to bed. Later!

@TiredCliche For sure!! Hope to speak with you later!! Tell me what Marla Singer would mean to you! Bye for now!

@AnnCummings first time I've heard "starchy" be used to describe a conversation XD, I'm not sure if you'd love or hate Manifold's supreme starch market ( /MarySmith/-improve-my-bread )

@TheAllMemeingEye No! You have a good sense of humor!~~! I am new to Manifold (and lost most of my money!!) but having fun. At the same time, unlike you and several others (!!), some are so serious and focused so hard. WAIT!!! You send me the link???? For Bread!!! Haha

@TheAllMemeingEye Thanks!! That is really cool! over 200??! wow. And resolves at 9 36 am??

haha. Do you know anything about bread??? I dont!

Looks like at least 2 people so far have misclicked. ;)

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