🍞 Improve my bread? 🍞 [ADD OPTIONS]
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96%
Don't eat anything for at least 48 hours before eating the bread
89%
Replace all water spritz steps with a basting of extra virgin olive oil.
88%
Stretch-and-fold after mixing, 3x every 30 min
83%
Autolyse 20 minutes
83%
Don't eat anything for at least 24 hours before eating the bread
80%
Bake on upside-down sheet pan, covered with Dutch oven
69%
Improve the bread
68%
it needs more salt
67%
Donate the bread to a food pantry, homeless person, or someone else in need
63%
Use sourdough instead of yeast
59%
Incorporate a whole grain flour (buckwheat for example)
56%
Try baking a little more "bien cuit". If the image is indicative, your loaves may be quite "blonde".
55%
3 iterations of stretch-and-fold, at any time during the 14h waiting period. Minimum wait time between iterations 1 hour
52%
Bake for an amount of minutes equal to the percent this market answer is at when it comes time to begin baking. (Maintain the Β±3 minute tolerances and the 2:1 ratio of time before:after the water spritz.)
51%
Let dough rise on counter only until double volume or 2h max, any time longer in fridge
50%
Ditch current process, do everything the same as the video
50%
Start at 500F, drop to 450F and uncover half way through
50%
Put a baking rack in the Dutch oven before putting the loaf in, raising the loaf off the floor and lofting it over a layer of air.
50%
Use flour made from an unconventional grain e.g. barley, millet, oats, rye, sorghum, maize etc.
48%
Use whole wheat to improve the nutrition of the bread

If the change is distinguishable AND is worse, resolves NO

If the change is distinguishable AND is better, resolves YES

If the change is not distinguishable AND does not greatly (25%?ish) reduce time or inputs, resolves NO

If the change is not distinguishable AND does greatly (25%?ish) reduce time or inputs, resolves YES

If I determine the change is too difficult (I have my own mill but sifting by hand could be maybe too tedious?, stuff like grow my own wheat), I am liable to resolve that option N/A

If I determine the change departs too far from the categories "bread" or "loaf of bread" (such as suggesting I make a bread bowl with split pea soupπŸ˜‹ or a BLT πŸ˜‹ or cinnamon rolls πŸ˜‹), resolves N/A

I will judge all changes on the criteria:

Crust, Crumb, Moisture, Taste

blinding or double blinding as needed, including tests to verify that the changes are distinguishable and not subject to order effects.

I may have others, as available, provide their input on these at a rate of 50% or less of my ratings for a weighted avg.

I will extend the overall market until some period x where noone's interested and I've iterated through the suggestions.

Base Recipe:

800 g All-Purpose Flour, Unbleached (King Arthur)

600 g Water, RO filtered (Waterdrop G2P600)

17 g Salt, Coarse (Morton Kosher)

4 g Yeast (Fleichmann's/ REDSTAR)

Heat water to 30Β±1 Β°C

Add 17Β±0.5 g salt and 4Β±0.3 g yeast to jug

Mix in 600Β±5 g water to yeast and salt jug (prevents salt & yeast clumps in dough)

Weigh out 800Β±5 g flour in big bowl

Mix jug into bowl until no dry flour

Wait 14Β±2 hrs, bowl covered on dinner table

Preheat oven to 465Β±15 Β°F with Lodge cast iron dutch ovens inside

Split dough and shape into rounds

Place rounds on parchment paper and cut design

Open dutch ovens and place loaves

Spritz 30Β±2 g water around each loaf

Bake 30Β±3 min, closing and placing dutch ovens in oven

Spritz 30Β±2 g water around each loaf

Bake 15Β±3 min, placing dutch ovens in oven without lid

Place loaves on cooling rack

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@traders I plan on resolving baste with oil, bake with best friend, the 3x yeast 3hr rise ones in the next 72 hrs.

@atmidnight I'm kinda really excited to see if the taste testers will be able to tell between the 10% max sawdust by vol and control.

Would you please clarify how I go about adding the sawdust. I've been doing this by weight, do you mean 10% max by volume of dry ingredients? Would appreciate your guidance on this!

@MarySmith is this some baking slang or is this about regular sawdust from cutting wood? Is that safe?

@AlexanderTheGreater saw dust has been used in bread for centuries as a filler when wheat got too expensive. it's non-nutritious but mostly harmless in small doses afaik. dont eat it raw and unmixed, ofc

@MaxA This is a true and accurate statement. I have only resolved ~70/~160. Thank you for your patience.

Make a poolish 12 h ahead: 100 g flour + 100 g water + 0.8 g yeast (0.1 %). After it ferments, use this poolish in place of 100 g flour and 100 g water in the final dough.

Most testers couldn't distinguish, crumb was a little less airy. Definitely on the margins.
Resolved
NO


Ditch all the steps. Just buy the bread from the supermarket

Taste testers got angry at me for feeding them two different supermarket loaves - 365 whole foods market Classic White & Bread Shed mini sourdough bread. They preferred the store bought sourdough to the classic white but preferred control homemade to either.

Resolved
NO

Started the poolish

Add 50g honey
Used Manuka Honey, was distinguishable but not preferred!
Resolved

NO

Eat the bread while sending all your mana to @realDonaldTrump
Reduced my available mana to 11, sent it to this fellow, while eating the control bread and it did not improve the bread.
Resolved

NO

Replace flour with flowers

CANCEL

Resolve this option YES while eating the bread
Didn't improve bread, so reresolved NO
Resolved

YES, then NO


Toast the bread
Testers were mixed on this. Could have gone the other way if the sample was larger.
Resolved

YES


Think positive thoughts before tasting

Everyone reported no change :/ Maybe someone can suggest a better methodology for this?
Resolved
NO


Resolve this option NO while eating the bread
Didn't improve bread.
Resolved

NO


Decompose it into infinite spheres, then a few parts per sphere, rotate the spheres by arccos(1/3), unite them and you will find 2 chilis (Banach-Tarski)
I don't know how to do this with physical objects in reality.
Resolved

CANCEL


Drink vodka while eating the bread
I don't drink and my testers refused to do this.
Resolved

CANCEL


Mail the bread to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. Washington D.C.

CANCEL

@traders Im planning on resolving: Toast the bread, Add 50g honey today. Might do donate the bread , been talking with a bunch of homeless folks recently

@MarySmith bread in oven rn

We're cooking, Chat!

Use King Arthur Bread Flour instead of All-Purpose
Thought this was a good bet. Some of the taste testers said this was "saltier" but "denser" and the crumb wasn't as good.
Resolved

NO


Place small ice cubes between parchment and pot instead of water

Scratching my head on this one, maybe it was just a fluke of variation in the conditions/control but the shape, rise, moisture, and crumb were all better. Weighed the icecubes beforehand to make sure the water was equivalent. Tasted equivalent. Interested in retesting to see if this still holds.
Resolved
YES

Use tap water instead of fancy RO water
Taste testers could not distinguish it reliably from control. Congrats to @bens and his intuition that the tap water doesn't suck so bad where I live to make a difference. If this was the tap water in Austin this probably would have failed!
Resolved

YES

Cleaned up some of the meaningless markets

Do FOLDED

CANCEL

Quit Manifold into the bread.

CANCEL

Kill the bread into Manifold.

CANCEL

Bake the Manifold Crane into the Bread

CANCEL

Wear a suit while baking the cake.

CANCEL

@MarySmith tap water call was the easiest of my life. huge tap water w

@No_uh nailed it. Austin tap water was 😱 but the stuff here was indistinguishable for us, in the bread. What can I say πŸ™† I lost M on that, the ice cubes, or both πŸ˜‚

@MarySmith oh cool! I'm glad the tap water worked out :)

Can this be N/Ad or resolved? I still have 700 mana locked up here

@hruss Mary Smith's Wild Ride never resolves, sorry.
But there is a sell button you could use.

@BorisBartlog @hruss I will be starting up again soon, as I expressed in the prior message in these comments I have been doing 80-100 hr weeks for months for a training program for work away from home.

I am FINALLY done and excited to bake bread again.

🍞 Improve my bread? 🍞 [ADD OPTIONS]
If the change is distinguishable AND is worse, resolves NO If the change is distinguishable AND is better, resolves YES If the change is not distinguishable AND does not greatly (25%?ish) reduce time or inputs, resolves NO If the change is not distinguishable AND does greatly (25%?ish) reduce time or inputs, resolves YES If I determine the change is too difficult (I have my own mill but sifting by hand could be maybe too tedious?, stuff like grow my own wheat), I am liable to resolve that option N/A If I determine the change departs too far from the categories "bread" or "loaf of bread" (such as suggesting I make a bread bowl with split pea soupπŸ˜‹ or a BLT πŸ˜‹ or cinnamon rolls πŸ˜‹), resolves N/A I will judge all changes on the criteria: Crust, Crumb, Moisture, Taste blinding or double blinding as needed, including tests to verify that the changes are distinguishable and not subject to order effects. I may have others, as available, provide their input on these at a rate of 50% or less of my ratings for a weighted avg. I will extend the overall market until some period x where noone's interested and I've iterated through the suggestions. Base Recipe: 800 g All-Purpose Flour, Unbleached (King Arthur) 600 g Water, RO filtered (Waterdrop G2P600) 17 g Salt, Coarse (Morton Kosher) 4 g Yeast (Fleichmann's/ REDSTAR) Heat water to 30Β±1 Β°C Add 17Β±0.5 g salt and 4Β±0.3 g yeast to jug Mix in 600Β±5 g water to yeast and salt jug (prevents salt & yeast clumps in dough) Weigh out 800Β±5 g flour in big bowl Mix jug into bowl until no dry flour Wait 14Β±2 hrs, bowl covered on dinner table Preheat oven to 465Β±15 Β°F with Lodge cast iron dutch ovens inside Split dough and shape into rounds Place rounds on parchment paper and cut design Open dutch ovens and place loaves Spritz 30Β±2 g water around each loaf Bake 30Β±3 min, closing and placing dutch ovens in oven Spritz 30Β±2 g water around each loaf Bake 15Β±3 min, placing dutch ovens in oven without lid Place loaves on cooling rack I never really disliked AI until this bot. It's worse than bad autocorrect.

@evan I think you mean bread :)

@121 who knows πŸ˜‚

@traders We've been ripped off by this market for too long. Nothing has resolved yes and everything that would actually improve the bread is resolving no. So now I am introducing Improve my Chili, where nothing is too nonsensical to be resolved. Join the revolution!!

@realDonaldTrump I encourage you to make alternatives and I appreciate that it sucks to have to wait on me to resolve the markets by baking the bread and taste-testing.

Joke markets like "Force feed the POTUS" or "Quadruple Salt" only serve to waste my time to N/A or increase the likelihood I am incarcerated if taken seriously.

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