When will OpenAI announce o4 (full)
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1kṀ4062
Dec 31
1%
Before May 2025
13%
Before June 2025
24%
Before July 2025
27%
Before August 2025
32%
Before September 2025
41%
Before October 2025
46%
Before November 2025
50%
Before December 2025

Minor changes to the name, such as using "o4-large-1125" instead of "o4", are acceptable when determining the announcement. However, o4-mini, or some more minor version of the "full" o4, do not count.

To count as announced, an official announcement, with information about the model's capabilities, must be made by OpenAI or an official partner of OpenAI. if it's banned in the US but releases in China this market would still resolve YES.

Note that the model being publicly available at a future date is not required. This market, had it been about o3, would have resolved YES "before January 2025".

  • Integrated GPT-5 scenario: If o4 is simply incorporated into GPT-5 (i.e. if o4 is not independently announced), the market resolves NO.

  • Independent or benchmark announcement: If o4 is trained independently or on top of GPT-5 and there is an official announcement (e.g. benchmark results) even if it is not released as a standalone model, the market resolves YES.

See also:

/Bayesian/when-will-openai-announce-o4 (this market)

/Bayesian/when-will-openai-release-gpt45-ULpyUuqd2L

/Bayesian/when-will-openai-release-an-open-so

/Bayesian/when-will-deepseek-release-r2

/Bayesian/when-will-deepseek-release-v4

/Bayesian/when-will-xai-release-grok-4

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why do people think there will be an o4?

@JoshYou good question. Open-ai did say they would make mixed models like Claude and Gemini but later they backpedalled. Possible this lack of mixing is temporary and they still plan to mix o4 into gpt-5.

The fact that ab o4-mini (and -high) is publically available hints they might still release an o4 seperately.

If you think o4 won't release, there's a lot of mana here for you to bet down all options.

opened a Ṁ300 NO at 50% order

I’m a doubter. Currently all their efforts are on GPT-5, I think after that o4 will re-enter the discussion.

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