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Will Manifold revert the loan fee back to 0% (+M0) within a week
149
Ṁ1kṀ51k
resolved Jan 14
Resolved
YES
Previous interest-free loans have been fully grandfathered in and will not accrue any fees going forward.
SG bought Ṁ350 NO from 29% to 25%
-4.0%
on
New financial system
SG created poll: Which Manifold loan system do you like more?
SG bought Ṁ750 YES from 8% to 52%
+44%
on
SG bought Ṁ2,500 YES from 32% to 81%
+49%
on
SG bought Ṁ3,000 YES from 59% to 91%
+32%
on

https://manifold.markets/post/interest-of-5-on-all-positions-loan

Resolves YES if a new policy allows >80% of Manifold users to take 0% interest daily loans every day* at no cost, within a week of the above announcement.

*Possible ambiguity here: See https://manifold.markets/SavioMak/will-manifold-revert-the-loan-fee-b#4k4y50bn0c

Yes this closes one day early.

Links for people reading in the future:

New Financial System: https://manifold.markets/post/new-financial-system

Which Manifold loan system do you like more?: https://manifold.markets/SG/which-manifold-loan-system-do-you-l

  • Update 2026-01-09 (PST) (AI summary of creator comment): The creator has clarified that even if the interest rate per day matches the loan rate, this is still insufficient to resolve YES. The market only resolves YES if users are guaranteed to never lose mana on any possible loan (e.g., it would resolve NO if interest only pays out after holding a position for 1 year, since you could lose mana by taking a loan and selling shares immediately).

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yea

It's live! Resolves YES

boughtṀ3,000YES

@SG damn, iwas climing the free loan to bet yes

So this is a market where y’all are bribing SG to revert it by letting him get as many YES shares as he wants?

@moobunny Shhhh don't say that out loud!

@moobunny Manifold staff seems to be embracing the kiwi effect.

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I like the new system more. I think the old system makes it easier for people to get over-leveraged and end up negative. Morally, the idea of free loans doesn't sit right with me.

@LarsOsborne Morally?

@Velaris yep.

@Velaris

Balancing the books is a moral imperative. Default, and pay double.

-Topaz, from Honkai: Star Rail

@Quroe How did you come across this? Do you send it to users when you think they might default? You definitely should.

@Velaris I play Honkai: Star Rail casually. I'll give them the free advertising and say that the game is genuinely fun and visually stunning for a free to play gatcha game.

Many of the characters in their in-universe gigacorporarion have trailers that feel very "Manifold" to me.

I will occasionally pull this trailer out when I see somebody all-in their account on a singular market. I will also pull this one out from time to time too when I'm feeling pompously, arrogantly overconfident in something.

opened a Ṁ80 NO at 75% order

The guy who makes these changes bet the market from 8 to 52 last night, and you all think he can't do it?

He can probably just hit some revert buttons XD And you betcha he's got incentive now!

(also, I love the little event markers on the market graph - how do I do that on my own markets?)

@DannyqnOht maybe he's just fucking with us

opened a Ṁ100 NO at 75% order

Man, SG, I would hate to be writing code and have a prediction market betting I wouldn't be finished on time. That would suck. You're a brave soul.

within a WEEK?

cmon man

bought Ṁ250 YES

I gotta brag about this one...

I stopped to use loans after realizing that 0.05% per day is too much( about 20% annually)

in general it will be good to adjust loan rate in response to inflation not just picking some random rate

I just realized that possibility of an announcement of temporary reversion, e.g. "We will revert back to 0% for 2 weeks and then we will use another new system". This is a bit ambiguous in the current resolution criteria. I want to resolve this sort of announcement to YES but interpreting what I wrote yesterday literally it seems like it would depend on what "take [...] daily loans every day" means.

I don't have a conclusion yet. What do you guys think? If this really ended up mattering I will let mods resolve since I have a position here.

@SavioMak I'd also be interested to know how "let's just use both systems" will resolve.
Edit: I reread the resolution criteria - would resolve YES, right?

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