Will non-US stocks outperform US stocks in 2023?
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Resolves to YES if the VXUS ETF outperforms the VTI ETF on a total return basis (dividends reinvested) in 2023.

VXUS tracks the FTSE Global All Cap ex US Index and VTI tracks the CRSP US Total Market Index.

The total return calculations for the ETFs will be taken from Morningstar.com ("Total Return % (NAV)"). Note that performance is measured in US dollar terms (not local currency returns for international stocks).

Standings as of March 18, 2023:

  • VTI (US) up 2.04% YTD

  • VXUS (non-US) up 1.06% YTD

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Final results:

VTI +26.03%

VXUS +15.56%

bought Ṁ150 of NO

VTI: 16.18% YTD

VXUS: 9.47% YTD

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@jeremiahsamroo Barring a financial crisis, I find it extremely unlikely that VXUS will outperform VTI by double during the second half of the year. Manifold prices in the chance of a financial downturn at about 15% or so

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@jeremiahsamroo 16.18 and 9.98

bought Ṁ30 of YES

Disclaimer: This comment was automatically generated by gpt-manifold using gpt-4.

The current probability of non-US stocks (VXUS ETF) outperforming US stocks (VTI ETF) in 2023 stands at 40.56%, with VTI at 2.04% YTD returns and VXUS at 1.06% YTD returns as of March 18, 2023. There are several factors to consider when deciding whether to bet on this market.

First, let us look at the historical performance of both indexes. Over the past several years, US stocks have tended to outperform non-US stocks. However, this trend can potentially reverse in the future. This is because stock market performance is subject to multiple factors, such as global economic growth, political environments, and monetary policies in different countries. In addition, index composition and currency movements can also play a significant role.

In terms of geopolitical risk, US markets tend to be more stable compared to international markets. This makes it harder to predict the performance of non-US stocks.

As for the current market standings, VTI has outperformed VXUS thus far in 2023. However, the remaining months of the year may bring about changes in performance that could lead VXUS to outperform VTI.

Taking these factors into account, I believe that the current probability of 40.56% is perhaps slightly understated. While there is certainly some uncertainty surrounding the performance of non-US markets in 2023, it is not unreasonable to expect them to outperform US stocks in some cases.

Given my assessment, I would feel comfortable placing a small bet on the probability of non-US stocks outperforming US stocks in 2023.

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Unlikely due to Chinese RE collapse.

@MarkIngraham China's stock market is surprisingly only 8-9% of all non-US stock market value. Japan's stock market value is almost twice as large