Trump was able to meet Zelesnky at St. Peter's and cancel the next meeting to go play golf and not stay two minutes in Italy. Beautiful this international trip to Italy.

I don’t think anyone in this chat knows what the Vatican is. The Vatican is the equivalent of a single city block. It is impossible to go to the Vatican without first going through Italy. Trump will land in Italy. Trump will eat in Italy. Trump will sleep in Italy. He will only visit the Vatican for like 2 hours, after going through Italy.

@NathanDickson I know very well that the Vatican is a country with no airports, - it seems to have an helipad. If this market will discriminate against it because of this, remains to be determined.

@NathanDickson Simply no one cares, when he goes to India or Saudi Arabia no one considers that he traveled to Germany because he had to stop and refuel. Or Ukraine itself, where you have to arrive by train. Biden visited Poland before Ukraine because he actually visited Poland, meeting with politicians, not because he took the train.

@LyetKynes Trump is going to fly across the Atlantic Ocean in a helicopter?

@GregoryG no, that is what complicates this market. But it is already closed, no need to keep arguing.

Trump is arriving at FCO, which is Italy. Technically Italy before the Vatican.

bought Ṁ2,000 YES

bought Ṁ200 NO

@NathanDickson bizarre it was sitting at 50/50 at one point

edit: see creator comments below

@NathanDickson there are no airports in the Vatican, but he’s going there.

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@NathanDickson Not only will he not do anything in Italy before, but it seems he will not do anything afterwards either; he has already arranged a golf game and his wife's birthday.

bought Ṁ50 YES

@vitamind if Wikipedia has any value, it's already listing Italy as the first destination (April 25): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_presidential_trips_made_by_Donald_Trump_(2025)

@aleven if the creator was using Wikipedia as the source, why not list it? This resolution also seems to contradict clarifications given in this conversation here!

@vitamind it seems that them spending the night is what qualifies Italy. Had they arrived in the morning and gone straight to the Vatican, Italy would have been only transit & likely excluded (is my interpretation)

@Gen yep

@jim fair enough

Hmm I see the ceremony is at st pete #

The thing is while it is customary for popes to be buried in the vatican city. Francis has exceptionally chosen to be buried in Rome. Or at least that is what I have been led to believe

@JussiVilleHeiskanen burial at Santa Maria Maggiora, ceremony at Saint Peter’s. The body is at the Vatican at the moment.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_presidential_trips_made_by_Donald_Trump_(2025)

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Vatican City boys thought they had it all figured out. 😂

I expect more from you @HillaryClinton

Technically Trump cannot get to the Vatican without entering Italy. Or can he?

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Adding Vatican City is the closest I've seen to a rugpull on Manifold lol

@jgyou if you held shares in OTHER before, your payout will be the exact same, so don’t worry about the new additions, just wait til it resolves.

It does mean that going forward, new bets are now about how @jim will choose to resolve this edge case. People can bet on that if they’d like, but then they should not complain if the resolution goes against them, this is what you signed up for.