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@CraigTalbert Pandering for votes from libertarians who believe drugs should flow freely and murder for hire should be decriminalized. Within the next week Trump will, with a straight face, address a crowd regarding the terrible Fentanyl epidemic. He'll blame the tragedy on Mexico and China and not once mention the room full of drug dealers that cheered him the week before when he promised to liberate their pirate king.
@becauseyoudo hi, extreme lefty here. He should be released because the “murder” charges were obviously made up by spooks who felt humiliated by getting the run-around by a kid for years, and nobody should be doomed for two hundred years for anything short of being Hannibal Lector. He’s a very successful drug dealer and should have been sentenced thusly.
@Eric_WVGG Did he ever actually sell any drugs or did he just facilitate the sale of drugs in the same way that he facilitated a murder for hire operation by setting up an anonymous black market for the exchange of goods and services. Calling him a drug dealer makes the point that he is also responsible for everything else that occurred on his platform.
If you're claiming that nobody, including Ulbricht, hired hitmen using the Silk Road that would be false since he paid for, at least, 5 murders using his service. If you're assuming that Net Neutrality laws of the time also apply to black market sites, I don't think they do. If your problem is with entrapment, legally, I don't think he has a leg to stand on (pun intended).
@becauseyoudo “entrapment” implies that he paid a fake person to run hits, I don’t believe that either. I think the evidence is fabricated.
And regardless, 200 years is an insane sentence. If the point of prison is rehabilitation, he won’t learn anything in 200 years that he wouldn’t in ten. If it’s punishment, then it should be punishment for harm done, which is no more than a drug dealer.
"he won’t learn anything in 200 years that he wouldn’t in ten."
@Eric_WVGG Justice systems are typically either punitive or reformative. The US goes back and forth on which is more "just" but typically favors a punitive system. A harsh sentence that is longer than a human lifespan suggests that judge and jury thought he was incapable of learning anything. This type of punitive sentencing is very common for drug cases. People have been sentenced to 90 year terms in the US for marijuana possession.
@becauseyoudo “Typically either” I know, that’s why I outlined both cases. Why are you explaining law to me? I’m just giving a non-libertarian argument for freeing him after a rational sentencing (which would include at least the possibility for parole).
This is just sadistic.
@Eric_WVGG I wasn't explaining law. I was trying to explain that the US justice system isn't designed to reform. It's a cultural thing, tied heavily to British and Irish cultures, both of which have very heavily punitive justice systems that favor satisfying the need for retribution from the families of the victims over reforming individuals to be productive members of society. Most other European justice systems tend to be structured in a way that favors reform.
I really don't know how I feel about Ross being pardoned. I doubt a shift towards a justice system that values reform over punishment had anything to do with the decision.