Is Elon a Nazi sympathizer?
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Background

Elon Musk is a prominent tech entrepreneur and CEO of multiple companies including Tesla, SpaceX, and X (formerly Twitter). The question of his ideological alignment has been debated due to his public statements, actions, and associations. Some of his controversial actions include supporting far-right political parties like the Alternative for Germany (AfD), spreading misinformation about historical events, and making gestures that some have interpreted as Nazi symbolism.

Resolution Criteria

This market will resolve based on clear, documented evidence from reputable sources that definitively demonstrates Elon Musk meets the scholarly definition of fascism. For resolution purposes, fascism is defined by the following core elements (all must be present):

  1. Ultra-nationalism

  2. Totalitarian aims

  3. Anti-democratic ideology

  4. Use of violence or force as a political tool

  5. Belief in a natural social hierarchy

  6. Opposition to liberalism and socialism

The market will resolve YES if there is clear evidence Musk meets all these criteria through his actions and stated beliefs. It will resolve NO if any of these elements cannot be definitively proven.

Considerations

  • Personal opinions, interpretations of statements, or circumstantial evidence will not be considered for resolution

  • Supporting right-wing politics alone does not constitute fascism

  • The resolution criteria uses an academic definition of fascism rather than colloquial usage

  • Actions and statements must be verified through multiple reputable sources

  • Historical context and scholarly analysis will be considered in evaluation

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filled aṀ100YES at 60% order

@SantosHermanLopez why are you betting on your own market?

@Daniel_MC Because it was an option, and because I wanted to make it clear where I stand. I simply asked because of what I have seen. I never listen to what they say I watch what they do.

filled a Ṁ50 YES at 40% order

My Elon is not a fascist. He may be a liar, a pig, an idiot, a fascist, but he is NOT a porn star! [semicit]

@FabioFabbrifabione hey how DARE you call him a pig, they're cute and kind and in no way deserving of comparison to that piece of trash

filled a Ṁ10 NO at 29% order

Given the fairly strict criteria this is currently too high at 39%

Not going to participate for obvious reasons. But I’ll say I prefer a lineage approach to ideology rather than a checkbox list of fairly nebulous ideas.

Fascism is a defined ideology with early 20th century roots. There are a number of successors to that lineage, who use its theory, rhetoric and iconography.

Based on that criteria, it seems pretty clear that Musk’s ideology, insofar as he has one, dovetails with fascism. He does fascist gestures, supports far right parties with fascist heritage, and has the tentative support of people who explicitly identify as fascist. I don’t know or care what the outcome of the Dittman arc was, but the stuff under the Dittman persona was also fascist.

The libs trying to cancel Elon like its 2020

Cannot really wrap my head around how dumb this is. To think this kind of thing was normal a few years ago

@skibidist Why is it hurting your feelings? Do you know him personally or just worship? Simple question yes, no or move on is fine.

@SantosHermanLopez Simple revulsion at the inversion of morality

I don't understand the point of utterly subjective markets where the market creator buys large amounts of YES directly after creating them...

For resolution purposes, fascism is defined by the following core elements (all must be present):

  1. Ultra-nationalism

  2. Totalitarian aims

  3. Anti-democratic ideology

  4. Use of violence or force as a political tool

  5. Belief in a natural social hierarchy

  6. Opposition to liberalism and socialism

Points 3, 4, and 5 seem to be necessary requirements of point 2, and point 6 is true of any ideology that isn't either liberalism or socialism.

Moreover, there seems to be no mention of other standard fascist characteristics like imperialist military expansion, genocidal extermination/enslavement of entire societal groups, censorship, propaganda, youth indocrination, and nostalgia for a fabricated historical golden age.

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