Manifold Live's Episode 2 will air live Sunday afternoon 12/10 at 2 Pacific with special guest @Conflux !
Our main agenda items are discussion political markets on manifold, as well as the general concept of manifold shows since Conflux is the creator of the Market Manipulation Podcast. But you can submit other things to discuss in this market! If we discuss something submitted to this market, I'll resolve that option to yes!
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@Conflux especially in terms of, like, me having good things to say on the topic… although I guess if you don’t know me, you might not know whether I have good things to say on a topic
@Conflux I mean we can ignore suggestions even if they're bet up high. We could resolve to be more picky this episode to incentive more discerning bets.
@Joshua yeah, for sure! the top criterion for discussing things should ultimately be my prof—I mean my prediction of how high-quality the discussion on it will be
@PlasmaBallin Yeah, I don't think the outcome is super surprising if you listened to the last episode ... we might cover it though, continuity...
I can see how this may seem poorly worded (and I admit I missed the last ep), but hear me out: even in the past week there was a ton of discourse from a ton of people here about how invalid Swift was as a contender and how impossible it was that she would be the PotY. There's a definite change in sentiment since the announcement (imagine that) - I get it if it doesn't land as it would be more retrospective/observational. But the anti-Swift rhetoric was strong, even if the people on the last pod thought she was a shoo-in.
@shankypanky One potential reason could be that it's the first time an entertainer has been the sole Person of the Year. There were previous times (2005 and 2017, where Taylor Swift was even on the cover as part of the group) where entertainers were recognized, but the Person of the Year was never just one entertainer. And even when entertainers were recognized, it was for something other than entertainment (philanthropy and speaking out about sexual harassment). So Taylor Swift becoming Person of the Year due to the cultural impact of her tour is actually unprecedented.
Perhaps, but imo a large part of the disconnect here was amongst those who only considered her "an entertainer" (or thought about swifties, albums, etc). A massive amount of news that crossed my path this year was more about economics: effect on GDP, positive impacts on small or local businesses around the time of her concerts (there was a locally-owned bead shop in Seattle that was so overrun with business before her shows here that they couldn't keep up with purchases/orders?), jersey sales, etc. She's certainly an entertainer but my argument was always that her music etc almost seems like an afterthought in a lot of conversations so it's definitely in line with what you're saying, perhaps in a more novel or nuanced way.
That said, I know that's not purely how Time ended up framing it of course. I think probably more than most (any?) entertainers, her business acumen has been the lede for non-pop culture media outlets.