
Will it be possible for a non Tesla employee to ride in a fully autonomous Tesla vehicle anywhere in the world by the end of 2025?
Has to be a service that non Tesla employees can use. Has to be a point to point ride of at least 1 mile. Has to be on public roads in a city.
Boring company tunnels don’t count.
Update 2025-02-09 (PST) (AI summary of creator comment): - No driver: The vehicle must be fully autonomous with no driver present.
Open to non Tesla employees: The service must be available to the general public, not just Tesla employees.
Point-to-point ride: The ride must travel from one distinct location to another over a distance of at least 1 mile (routes that simply loop or circle do not qualify).
Operates on public roads: The ride must occur on public roads (excluding places like Boring Company tunnels).
Update 2025-03-27 (PST) (AI summary of creator comment): Clarification on 'anywhere':
The term anywhere in the world means that the autonomous ride must occur in at least one location in the world.
It does not require that the service be available in every location globally.
Update 2025-03-27 (PST) (AI summary of creator comment): Clarification on Service Duration
Ongoing Service Requirement: The Robo-Taxi service must be an ongoing operation rather than a one-off demo or short-term stunt.
Temporary Trials: If the service is only a temporary demonstration lasting a few days or weeks, it should resolve as a no outcome.
Expansion Intention: If the service begins with a limited number of routes but shows clear plans for sustained and expanding operations, it qualifies for a yes resolution.
Update 2025-05-18 (PST) (AI summary of creator comment): In the context of fully autonomous operation:
The system should generally align with Level 4 autonomy (e.g., similar to services like Waymo), meaning no human is in the driver's seat.
Tele-operation of the vehicle (a remote human driving the car) at normal driving speeds is not permitted.
Remote assistance (where a remote human helps the vehicle make a decision or navigate a non-standard situation after the vehicle requests help) is acceptable.
This assistance can be initiated even if the vehicle is moving at a very low speed (e.g., a few miles per hour) and indicates uncertainty; it does not strictly require the vehicle to have come to a complete stop on its own first.
Update 2025-06-23 (PST) (AI summary of creator comment): Regarding a safety monitor present in the passenger seat:
The creator is conflicted on this scenario and is considering a 50% PARTIAL resolution or a NO resolution if a safety monitor is present.
This is open to further discussion as the situation evolves.