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He clearly announced a flying car by the end of 2026. It’s on the website. Whether it flies or not is beside the point.

@TonyBaloney lI feel like this would have resolved yes if Elon had only announced that the next roadster would fly in 2026, without any demonstration as all. He did this. But somehow demonstrating the roadster (arguably) flying is muddling what should be a clear resolution.

i mean he did announce it i dont see why its at 27% but idk im a but cautious

@EvanWang11j3 I suppose now we'll be debating the definition of "flying"
I suggest we start by looking at if the Wright Brother's first flight of about 12 seconds counts. So if it's based on time, not sure. It is "powered" in a sense that its flying from its own power.

However if we're using the definition of an aircraft, the FAA doesn't seem to consider it one. Just a moment...

Rockets also aren't considered to be civil aircraft under the FAA.

@Qubits The question is not "Will Elon create a car that is considered an aircraft by the FAA", it's, "will Elon make a car, and will said car fly"

@Qubits The FAA is defining things for the purpose of regulation, not whether they fly or not. Birds definitely fly. Does the FAA care? No.

@Qubits not rly the market itself kidna states that as long as elon himself announces theres a flying car it counts

@Qoiuoiuoiu I am of your opinion, thanks.
Hm, so if the question is "will Elon make a car, and will said car fly" - then people must be debating if the current state of the car counts as flying, or if it is simply jumping, as one would do with cartoon springs.

Does anyone happen to have factual evidence supporting or not supporting the:
1. flight duration
2. flight mobility
3. hovering?
4. Other details that would define it as flying or some other action of temporarily leaving the ground

Historical dictionary definitions seem to have defined "flying" or "to fly" as needing wings. However, it is obvious that this definition is out of date as helicopters are typically considered to be flying.


But as @EvanWang11j3 says, this whole argument is moot as it is the factual and objective argument on "Did elon announce it"

Unless, we somehow declassify the said announced car from the flying sector
For instance, do we trust Elon to say that it is "flying"? I guess?
Like if it was a concept, we wouldn't really be able to verify that. There could also be stages of announcements, varying in importance/product design stage.

Plot thickens? https://vxtwitter.com/EoinHiggins_/status/2111123667132223672

Edit nvmd probably a meme

If this isn't the perfect place for this, I don't know what is.

will review the evidence when i get home tmrw

@strutheo It's a meme, not evidence, don't worry. 😆

@Quroe was half expecting a rick roll lol

@TheAllMemeingEye Gotta keep ya on your toes.

gotta be honest the new videos are cool but its not really what i envisioned when i hear 'flying car', i was imagining sustained flight. its hard to know if thats what the original tweet refers to either, its also hard to know how long the jets can propel it for, seems like only a few seconds based on the videos

that being said everyone else seems to think it is one, not sure how to resolve tbh

It goes up, it comes down, it doesn't kill the person in it doing either, the power source / vertical movement supply is internal, it's visibly a car.
And "Elon announces a flying car" is a separate claim from "Elon makes an objectively correct statement on X."

But this isn't a Jetsons-car, and compressed air isn't ever going to get you to that level of capability. Fundamentally capped b/c of fuel and tank weight to seconds-at-most. This one's a rad-ass jump capacitor, not a fuel tank for sustained anything.

@strutheo the question was whether Elon would officially announce a flying car and not on the definition of flying car (such as requiring sustained flight) or that the tweet in the description below would be part of the resolution (such as explicitly saying military applications)
CBS: "Tesla CEO Elon Musk unveiled what he described as a "flying" car"
CNN: Tesla unveils what it says is a flying car
Tesla's Lars Moravy stated, "Flying cars are real."

Elon said the Roadster "can basically fly like a rocket."

Elon explicitly referred to its demonstration as a "flight."
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tesla-roadster-debut-elon-musk-flying-cars-are-real/

Tesla unveils what it says is a flying car | CNN Business

Tesla unveils what it says is a flying car | CNN Business

Tesla CEO Elon Musk Thursday unveiled a car that he said will be able to fly, a feature long relegated to science fiction and Saturday morning cartoons.

@strutheo Polymarket resolved their "Will the Tesla Roadster fly for 1s+?" as Yes
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@strutheo Ok I mean it won't fly from LA to NY, but it hovers off the ground e.g. downed tree? Hop over. As soon as I saw it, I didn't think "man, that's a aerial-stunt performing car", I thought "man that's a flying car"

@Qoiuoiuoiu Funny, I thought the exact opposite

Any range needed as opposed to short aerial stunts such as demonstrated at reveal event?

Are all three points of the tweet required for YES? Not sure he said anything about military applications.

Yup it flew, does this resolve YES

@Qoiuoiuoiu It fell I wouldn't say it flew, plus it's not announced as commercially available product, so I am not sure it counts?

@YogSothoth More controlled than a fall I would say. Took off to leap over vehicles throwing in a roll in the kick flip demo does not seem like a fall to me. Short range aerial stunt not long range flying? However, it seems unclear if there is a long range requirement to the flying.