If Joe Biden wins in 2024, will a War between China and the USA have occured by the end of his 2025 term?
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War as defined by the Uppsala Conflict Data Program is "A state-based conflict or dyad which reaches at least 1000 battle-related deaths in a specific calendar year"

This will resolve YES for any war in which China and the USA are directly and kinetically involved on opposing sides.

"Wins in 2024" refers to the 2024 presidential election. If Biden loses, this market will be refunded.

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@Symmetry this should have been NAed?

I did not have an option for that

You mean you couldn't do it?

These were the options

Can just ask @mods to do it

The difficulty with this and most questions of war or even politics generally is that good definitions are hard to come by. Especially in todays age. That said, this definition of war is not nearly well defined enough. What does directly opposed mean in practice? Proxy conflicts? Taiwan? South China Sea? Declarations of war? U.S. personnel or private troops in live combat? Drone or space or cyber warfare realms? Information warfare already exists, as does other conflict - but what crosses the line into war? Certain policies measures invoked short of a war declaration? Thereafter, whose view do we take as authoritative should there be reasonable disagreement in analysis (which there will be).

@JusteM Good question. This will resolve YES if we see kinetic involvement targeting material and personel of both sides against each other. Basically both need to bomb each other. This implies that an involvment akin to what the USA is doing in Ukraine or Israel would not resolve as YES. If that happens, we will know. And there probably will be no disagreement about it.

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