Will @MarkIngraham be banned before May 1st
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Resolves YES if at any point before May 1st, @MarkIngraham is banned in whole or in part. If he is blocked from commenting, that will be a YES; if blocked from creating markets, that will also be a YES.

Resolves NO if action is only taken against individual comments/markets on a case-by-case basis.

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Ian Philipspredicted YES

Brutal

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Sinclair Chenpredicted NO

GUH

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Scott Lawrence

This will resolve YES shortly unless there is an objection.

Austin avatar
Austinpredicted YES

@ScottLawrence I did note that the question is a bit ambiguous about whether a temp ban would count, but YES seems quite reasonable (disclaimer: YES holder)

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Scott Lawrence

@Austin I didn't even know there had been any permanent bans...

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Josh Wilkes

I don't understand why someone who has repeatedly engaged in holocaust denial hasn't been permanently banned

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Isaac King

@JoshuaWilkes Because this is a platform for finding truth, not dictating it.

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Josh Wilkes

@IsaacKing and you don't care that MI was using antisemitism as a way of trolling and not truth seeking when he posted those comments?

It seems there is moral and reputational risk for the site/community here

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Austinbought Ṁ100 of YES

I'm issuing a ban on posting for Mark Ingraham. This comes after a previous warning for spam/low quality content.

Currently intend for this to be a temporary (weeklong) ban, but am open to other moderation policies here.

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Isaac King

@Austin Why did you delete their comments entirely? That just makes threads confusing and removes important context. I thought we had the comment-hiding feature specifically for cases like these.

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Austinpredicted YES

@IsaacKing I did not intend to delete their comments entirely, and am not sure why their comments are gone. This may be a side effect of me setting their isBannedFromPosting attribute to true, or action from a different admin?

Also, can you link to where their comments have been deleted?

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James

@Austin Maybe @IsaacKing has blocked Mark, and so his comments are not appearing?

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Isaac King

@JamesGrugett Oh, I'm an idiot. I did that too. Sorry!

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Jasonpredicted YES

@Austin Not sure that is long enough. I don't see any reason one should have confidence that he would had reformed after a week away.

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Alldjhf

it feels disappointing that the admins have not yet banned an obvious troll who most people have only had a negative interaction with, someone who has even said they;re trolling and wanting to be banned.

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Jackpredicted YES

The N/A resolutions look like they were all on markets just opened with no or few traders, so that's fine. But the early resolutions are a problem.

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John Smithbought Ṁ25 of YES

@jack Assuming I’m understanding his thought process properly, he makes “free money” markets trying to get 5+ traders in order to turn a net profit. If you N/A a market, you’re refunded the creation cost, I think.

Ofc him being a troll means that the lulz is also a valid line of reasoning for why he does what he does.

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Ian Philipspredicted YES

@JohnSmithb9be trader bonuses are clawed back if you n/a

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James

@jack Another thing wrong was this market he created that violated our policies: https://manifold.markets/MarkIngraham/will-a-manifold-user-stage-a-mass-s?r=SmFtZXNHcnVnZXR0

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Forrest Taylor
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Scott Lawrence

@ForrestTaylor It's a bit disappointing. He had turned a net profit! We need more irritating loons who nevertheless manage to forecast correctly. The charm of @Gigacasting is wearing out...

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Mark Ingrahampredicted YES

Mods are deleting comments. I leave.

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Jackbought Ṁ50 of YES

He also said on discord "I'm trying to get banned here" (or at least, someone claiming to be him, I can't verify for sure)

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Mark Ingrahampredicted YES

@jack yes I will be banned for antisemitism

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Jackpredicted YES

@MarkIngraham If you want to be banned, I'm pretty sure we can make it happen.

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Alldjhf

@MarkIngraham you will NOT say anti semetic things.