Will there be drama caused by Manifold employees' ability to create free M$ by the end of 2025?
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Aug 27, 9:39am: Will there be drama caused by Manifold employee's ability to create free M$ by the end of 2025? → Will there be drama caused by Manifold employees' ability to create free M$ by the end of 2025?

This could be an employee directly abusing the function by giving themselves or a friend large quantities of M$, or it could be something less nefarious like a bunch of less active users feeling that it's unfair others are getting handouts.

Resolves based only on drama I find out about; I have no way to know about internal drama in the Manifold team or some other subcommunity if no one tells me about it.

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bought Ṁ30 YES

The loan program and other giveaways were free mana created by employees and they led to the devaluation which caused substantial drama.

Should resolve YES.

@MartinRandall Got a link to some of the drama? I'm out of the loop.

Here's another link to discussion of what people were upset about: https://manifold.markets/JamesGrugett/which-of-these-would-you-want-back

@MartinRandall Seems against the spirit of the question

bought Ṁ50 YES

BTE's banning was caused by this, they gave BTE the ability to create free mana (there was special code that allowed him to create markets for free, this was done by manifold employees). He would create markets for free, then he would NA those markets and get mana back from thin air.

Not sure if you want to all it drama, but IMHO it was at least somewhat dramatic.

@Odoacre I should specify this is just a rumor I've heard, may be completely made up

@Odoacre The info is in this public discord thread (add yourself to the power user role to view)

IIUC, they gave BTE a special case ability to go negative to create markets (so like a loan). Then, they had a bug that meant that instead of going negative his balance instead stayed the same. BTE abused this to print himself a bunch of mana, and was banned for that.

If an employee had done what BTE did, I would totally agree it counts. I also think granting the special case to BTE seems not ideal and I think there could have been better options, but it's a little ways removed from the employees creating free mana themselves. It could potentially fall into the category similar to "a bunch of less active users feeling that it's unfair others are getting handouts." except that the drama wasn't over BTE getting the free loans to create markets with negative balance, the drama was that BTE exploited the bug that came later to print himself a bunch of mana, which is just obviously wrong but is something BTE did taking advantage of a combination of something the employees did and a bug.

predicts NO

Some potential drama arose in discord. The consensus seemed to be that it should not count for this market as the mana was not "free".

https://discord.com/channels/915138780216823849/943628693958459462/1022930308762439840

This sounds like an incentive to cause drama!

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