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Which is first: Moonbase, or California high speed rail?
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Moonbase: a single pressurized volume on the Moon with at least six occupants for a contiguous Earth year.

High speed rail: At least one human must travel, successfully, from SF to LA (or the reverse). Tracks must be capable of at least 90mph for SF-Gilroy and Burbank-Anaheim, and at least 155 mph for the remaining pieces, with the majority of the travel distance exceeding those minimums. (Current plans have speeds below what would normally qualify as HSR for those sections. And obviously the train will slow down for intermediate stops.)

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Any particular reason for the requirement of 6 persons rather than, say, 2 or 3?

@Eliza No. I am actually behind on reading all the details, criteria probably need a little tweaking.

@EvanDaniel FWIW I was considering boosting this because it was interesting to me but I decided not to because it feels to me that a 6 person requirement may not align with some potential visions of a moon base. If the requirement was lowered I would consider it.

@Eliza Any specific suggestions? My rough goal is "a real moonbase, not a half-finished one" in the same way that the HSR requirements are not for phase 1, they're for actually building the damn HSR.

@EvanDaniel IDK, my baseline is that ISS often has only 3 people on it. Is a moon base supposed to have a lot more than 3 people at a time? I don't really know anything about this subject.

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a single pressurized volume on the Moon with at least six occupants for a contiguous Earth year.

This is probably a more stringent definition than Isaacman has in mind. So be it.

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