I could imagine Twitter allows apps to integrate UI parts like Slack and MSTeams currently allow. Then Manifold could provide an app there. Would that be YES or NO? Yes, because Twitter-the-experience does incorporate a prediction market. No, because Twitter-the-company did not incorporate a prediction market itself; somebody else did.

@CarsonGale

Thanks for checking. There is a sense in which Twitter-the-experience already incorporates prediction markets given one can post a link or screenshot of other prediction markets in a post - that is not sufficient. In that same vein, a simple UI integration like what you can do on Slack would not be sufficient for a positive resolution.

I'm open to some integration whereby Twitter/X is actively and frequently promoting a 3rd party prediction market that could resolve positively, but I think that looks different from what you are describing.

@CarsonGale I understood: A third party app would resolve YES if Twitter specifically supports it. If they only support it generically like any other app, it would be NO.

Elon advertising it would be „specific support“? Or does he not count as „Twitter“ here?

@marketwise Yes, that seems generally accurate. Also, a positive resolution would require some likelihood of ongoing support. e.g., official Twitter/X accounts posting certain Manifold Markets would not be "incorporation of a prediction market".

Elon would only count in conjunction with other criteria mentioned if his actions are reflective of his specific official capacity at Twitter. But again, him posting a series of 3rd party markets is not sufficient for a YES resolution.

By Twitter you mean X the company right? Not the product?

@Shai Twitter might look very diffrent in 7 years.

@Shai Confirmed - I edited the description to provide clarity.

I added some notes on resolution details in the description. Feel free to let me know if anything is unclear.

Yeah it's an interesting idea, and I def think there's a large overlap in Manifold & Twitter audiences. I'm not sure exactly how this would work (what are you betting on?)

1. Could be "tweet a question about the future, and people can bet inline on Twitter"

2. Could be "bet on whether this tweet will replicate/be found to be good, in three months"

3. Could be "bet on whether this tweet will get >100 likes"

One important question is also: why do people post on Twitter? What are they trying to get? How about when they post a Manifold market?

Would love to hear y'alls thoughts and other ideas!

@Austin here are some general thoughts on the idea:

• Twitter is a large platform with diverse use cases. Prediction market capabilities are likely not appropriate for ~most of Twitter content

• Elon seems to personally care about Twitter as a news source, conversation platform, and source of truth - prediction markets provide each of these services in a novel way

• The use case seems clear - Twitter users could tweet out prediction markets just like creating a Manifold market, and Twitter users could buy a Twitter 'currency' to predict on them. Community notes could be accompanied by Community predictions.

  • This feels important for Twitter since, as of now, it basically acts as the public square. Anything that grounds the public square more to the real world seems important

• FWIW, if I'm Elon, this is the last thing on my mind during a make-or-break period of time for Twitter's survival. Not something that is particularly likely to improve profitability or bring back / add new advertisers. But, if markets improve and Twitter is still around, this is something that seems to meet Elon's stated goals for owning Twitter

• If prediction markets could use real money, this suddenly becomes a much more interesting way to monetize Twitter

  • In the meantime, prediction markets could be an interesting Twitter Blue feature

@Austin I think you could say things like "Will Biden be the nominee" then add a market, as we do here.

Stop thinking about tweets, start thinking about the ability to make a new kind of tweet.

@Austin "I def think there's a large overlap in Manifold & Twitter audiences"

I think most Manifold users are on Twitter but very few Twitter users are on Manifold

@JoshuaBlake Given the relative sizes of both platforms, I'm not sure how it could be otherwise.

I have no opinion if this will happen, but it would be such amazing news. Maybe the best thing Musk could do to twitter.

Manifold in the wild: A Tweet by Carson Gale

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