Austin avatar
closed Nov 26
If Manifold airdrops blue checks, which users will get them?

The new Core Team badge looks nice and shiny, I kinda wanna do the same for users who are known to be "trustworthy market creators" or "verified". Who do y'all think deserve one?

Market resolves equally to each user I decide would be good enough to validate, or N/A if we end up thinking this is a bad idea for various reasons (eg maybe it should just be a paid subscription program, or this market ends up being a s***show)

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Nov 18, 8:31am: If Manifold airdrops blue checks, which users deserve them? → If Manifold airdrops blue checks, which users will get them?

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Andrew G
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@acc
JoshuaB avatar
Joshua
bought Ṁ50

My argument for @acc getting a checkmark is that in the description, it says "The official Manifold house trading bot," and what is the checkmark supposed to signify if not officiality.

N.C. Young
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@ManifoldMarkets
NcyRocks avatar
N.C. Young
bought Ṁ10

Don't know why I didn't think of this before

Olivia
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@Aella
BTE avatar

@LivInTheLookingGlass Shouldn't you have to actively use the site to get a blue check? Haven't seen Aella around here in months, though her reputation may be enough.

Devansh avatar
Devansh
bought Ṁ100

would be pretty surprised if i don't get a blue check tbh

David Glidden
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@Yev
Yev avatar
Yev ✔️
bought Ṁ25

I already have a blue check

IsaacKing avatar

@Yev Doesn't look very blue to me

Yev avatar
Austin
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https://manifold.markets/BTE
BTE avatar

@Austin arguments in my favor:

  • I create more markets than any other user;

  • I resolve those markets honorably;

  • I am deeply engaged on my markets and everyone else's as (probably) one of the top few commenters on the site;

  • I tip more than anyone else on the site (this is just a guess, but I tip A LOT);

  • if someone feels like my resolution was unfair or the wording of my question was unclear I ALWAYS make it good by generously compensating them via tips.

  • Oh, and I have 148 referrals so far.

MartinRandall avatar

The blue checks on the core team are a bit weird if we think of them as identity verification. Eg, Austin is"verified" to be... really named Austin? But Austin isn't like Cher, there are other notable Austins. He's not "the Austin".

Maybe he's lightweight-verified to not be a bot or spammer? But in that case anyone who's bought mana should get a blue check. Which would be a fine choice, but not the way this market is looking at.

Austin avatar

@MartinRandall The core team shield-checks are to verify "this in fact is a person who works on Manifold full-time".

The blue check verification thing for notable/good users would be another symbol!

N.C. Young
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@MattP
MattP avatar
Matt P
bought Ṁ50

@NcyRocks My argument for why:

  • I've never resolved a market incorrectly (though if I'm wrong there, someone please point out)

  • People apparently trust my judgment of honorable resolution well enough to have made a few markets where I'm the arbiter of such

  • Pip boy avatar, what's not to like?

BTE avatar
BTE
bought Ṁ100

@MattP I had to buy myself at least as high as you bought yourself!!

cos
answered
@cos
cos avatar
cos
bought Ṁ1

@cos now my chances are nonzero

NcyRocks avatar

I still think the best solution to this is some sort of eBay-style feedback system, where bettors can mark correct or incorrect resolutions. Has the advantages of being automatic and scaling better

IsaacKing avatar

Another question is whether you'd give it to well-known traders who barely create any markets, like @jbeshir.

noumena avatar

I don't want it to be an external-status thing, I want it to be an internal-status thing. Blue checks to people who make lots of markets and resolve them correctly.

noumena avatar

if someone impersonates another person, but is a good enough market creator to get a blue check, well if i was the impersonee i'd be flattered

IsaacKing avatar

If the idea is to do something similar to what Twitter used to do, then being an external status thing makes sense. "This is the real Eliezer Yudkowsky, so you can bet with your knowledge of that person."

(As opposed to people doing something like this.)

Austin avatar

@noumena That's a good perspective, thanks! I think practically speaking it'll be a mix of both -- to try and encourage external-status people to create good markets, and also to award some external-status to internal-status creators via association.

IsaacKing avatar
Isaac King
bought Ṁ10

This depends a lot on what exactly the blue check signifies. It could be for public figures in general or for well-known users on manifold. Eliezer and Scott are in the first category but not the second, people like me and Yev are in the second category but not the first. I don't think anyone is in both at the moment, though I expect that will change.

And there's a big difference between "well known" and "trusted", e.g. Spindle. I don't think we have any untrustworthy public figures yet, but I expect we'll get some eventually.

hamnox avatar

@IsaacKing I kind of feel like there should be a 🎭 or 🤡 symbol for noteworthy trolls (affectionate).

IsaacKing avatar

Whoops, should have embedded.

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Orpheus
bought Ṁ1

I would pay for a subscription. There could be market to forecast the % of users that would pay.