Will HPMOR be officially integrated into a public school curriculum before 2050?
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Any work of fiction written by Yudkowsky will count, not just HPMOR

but nonfiction (e.g. An Intuitive Explanation of Bayes Theorem) will not count, and the work must be at least 50,000 words.

It must be an entire school district, containing >300 students, anywhere in the country.

The administrative leadership of that school district must at least indicate tacit approval of the implementation, even if it is not unanimous.

If a single teacher or group of teachers decide to informally recommend the book in exchange for extra credit, it does not count. However, if it is formally offered as extra credit in all upper level or "gifted" classes, it will still count, so long as it ultimately ends up being read by more than 100 students in that school district.

Private schools and homeschooling will not count, unless they are closely networked into a chain that contains more than 3000 students, and more than 75% of them will be required to attempt to read at least the first 50,000 words of HPMOR or the approved Yudfic.

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The magic will be lost. Your spinny pens will break in your hands. Bad takes from classmates from the sparknotes. Anki flashcards that ask "what is the 4th virtue?" Leverage Research cram school after violin and before quidditch. Private lessons on econ on tues and sat. Your crush likes you too. but you can't date - she needs to memorize the difference between H&M and Balenciaga. Ritalin for breakfast. Huel for lunch. Chug the carton with one hand while you write your 7 page time travel essay in another.

A boot stepping on a child's hand at the edge of the rooftop, forever

No! This future must not come to be! Talking about your house should be fun and silly! The Sequences must remain a forbidden text that weird edgy kids read to regurgitate to seem clever in front of normie kids.

I don't think school districts read works that are that long

An Intuitive Explanation of Nonfiction

Wait, what's that?

predicts NO

@wadimiusz My bad, it's "An intuitive explanation of Bayes Theorem", weird typo on my end.

@ooe133 ah, you made this typo because you had just used the word "nonfiction" before that:

nonfiction (e.g. An Intuitive Explanation of Nonfiction)

you probably saw that word again and it got into your phonological loop and influenced your typing or whatever.

What are his current works that are past 50k words?

  • HPMor

  • Project Lawful

  • Maybe some random other glowfic thread

  • Probably Girl who was corrupted by the internet

  • Whatever that story which gets recommended on r/rational which he hasn't revealed he wrote, maybe

Project Lawful is good but unlikely to be taught in schools due to torture, sex, and the devil worship. Same for the girl corrupted one.

HPMor would be a bit odd of an assigned reading imo due to the length and lack of a nice way to break it up into pieces.

Though I'm working off loose calibration from time in school where reading one Harry Potter book was considered notable for most students.

Theoretically could be done as literary analysis where you're encouraged to read a chapter. Still unlikely even counting that.

So I would say that the most likely fiction, were this to happen, would likely be some future writing.

Though you can definitely argue that there's weird effects in worlds where AGI is dangerous. In those cases his works are more likely to be assigned. Still relatively unlikely though.

@Aleph other >50K word glowfic threads with Eliezer as a main author are:

  • team tyler's van

  • a dath ilani matchmaker in king randale's court

  • but hurting people is wrong

  • a dath ilani emt in queen abrogail's court

  • for no laid course prepare

take it apart and put it back together again is currently at 35K and looks like it has a reasonably good chance of making it to 50

i think the dark lord's answer is about as likely to make it as girl intercorrupted, but i'm not sure either do. 50K isn't short

If Eliezer's ideas are vindicated enough to make him worthy of being taught in public school, we will all be dead by 2050