Resolves yes if anthropic is worth more than apple in market capitalization before 2030
Update 2025-12-20 (PST) (AI summary of creator comment): If Anthropic is private, the market will resolve based on its latest known valuation (not public market capitalization).
Update 2025-12-20 (PST) (AI summary of creator comment): The market resolves based on events occurring before the start of 2030 (i.e., before January 1, 2030), not before the end of 2030.
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@MaxA one thing you can do is ask Claude what it thinks of this question. Either you trust it or you don’t. If you don’t, I don’t know why you’re betting YES. If you do, I don’t know why you’re betting YES.
@MaxA so you think that within the next 3 to 4 years, AIs that are less intelligent than you now will become profitable enough to 1. Explode current valuation and 2. Crush most competition, while the second largest company in the world, which shows no sign of weakening, somehow collapses. Is that the bet?
@MaxA how is an ai company going to flip Apple in market cap if it continues losing money, which is basically the case for all these companies for now. Especially after going public, do you think shareholders will not want profitability to ‘enter the chat’?
@JonasVollmer it’s one of the most overpriced markets on all of manifold.
@realDonaldTrump we could call it........quantitative easing
(yes, yes, i know that is not a good comp but it sounds funny)
@JeromeHPowell some NO orders starting at 21. Can’t afford to do much more.
@Sigurd if you'd like to make more short term bets about anthropic perf I have this market (and others for each subsequent year til 2028):
and if you want to make short term bets about apple we can create a market for this purpose
@Bayesian if this question was on Metaculus, honestly, what is your %chance you think this happens? I am very interested
@JeromeHPowell maybe 35%? Low confidence in that being my credence. my intuitive feeling is higher and not to be trusted (or is it?)
@Bayesian Interesting, is your thesis that Apple will crumble or that anthropic beats everyone to AGI
