apologies to manifold staff for hammering the API for several minutes after resolution

@Robincvgr bradbot did more than half of the trades but still lost through paper losses 🥲

I have resolved this N/A.

https://manifoldmarkets.notion.site/Guidance-for-running-a-market-8cb4257ed3644ec9a1d6cc6c705f7c77

Markets that could incentivise mass trading/commenting (eg. will this market have 10,000 trades) that could lead to substantial server costs.

@nikki very valid, gg all

@nikki Sorry! Please forgive me. I’ll take a gander at that Guidance page. I shoulda known better- this market was obviously a bad idea and I-

26K TRADES?!?! Oh my gosh!!! I’m sorry, please don’t put me in the stocks!! Jeeeeeeeze 26k trades is crazyyyyy

@crowlsyong

I, too, apologize for participating in it

nice DDoS market 😂

@cthor made my phone overheat 😭

good luck counting these

if a "A human using the API is a human", then it only takes two or three people to run a script (sponsored by someone with enough capital) to beat bradbot because of the api rate limits.

my point is that actually there isnt a difference between a bot and a human, because the only thing that distinguishes them is the tag.

@bradbot has just done about 3400 trades, about 85% of trades are now bots

@bradbot YES or NO?

@Predictor yes. if the bot only bets yes it will run out of AMM subsidy go i gotta get it to bet against itself, but with a bias towards yes

if anyone wants to challenge me i will crack out asyncio and upload this script to a server

The humans are winning the war:

BOTS, where are you? Come battle!

@traders I made a script

If humans will be losing, feel free to send me however much mana you want to bet in this market, I will place it all in M1 bets, and after the market resolves I'll send you the mana back with however much profit it made

Edit: if humans aren't loosing you are also welcome to do it, but I'll charge 3% of profit

@StepanBakhmarin
if someone configures their bot to auto-buy YES and you have a script to auto-buy NO, then it will be a battle of the ages. Hopefully this market doesn't denial of service Manifold XD

Well, we'll need a very mana rich human and I will lift the charge in that case. There is a 500 trades per minut per IP limit with Manifold asking not to use different IPs to circumvent it, so if both parties have unlimited mana or the shenanigan starts close to the market close it's a matter of who starts first; otherwise it's a matter of who's richer.

This has a potential to become fun indeed

@StepanBakhmarin The offer is suspended because I will be offline and unavailable for a few days, with great regret for missing out on the fun, that is

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@Robincvgr @BastiaanVorster

lol that's the spirit fellas!

For clarification, does this market resolve NO if most traders are human? Do you only count holders or any user who has traded at some point?

Does this resolve NO if there is a tie?

@GastonKessler My apologies. It's trades not traders. I typoed the market title and it's fixed now.

Market resolves NO if most trades are human or 50% are human. If less than 50% are human trades, then it resolves YES.

@crowlsyong Do trades via API count as human or bot?

@robert No. It needs to have the bot tag

I thought about saying yes, but then it would just be so easy to smash this market with a bazillion API bets via, so I think it's gotta have the bot tag. (doesn't fully prevent someone from making their bot spam this market, but it's extra steps).

EDIT: My answer doesn't make sense. Let me try again.
- Anything with bot tag is a bot.

- Anything without it is a human.
- A bot using the API is bot.

- A human using the API is a human

@crowlsyong

> counts as human or bot?

> no

I don't understand your answer; you sad that for a trade to count as a bot trade the trader should have a bot tag, because otherwise it would be too easy [...]. But isn't it the other way around? I can place a lot of bets via API from this account, and since it doesn't have a bot tag, they will count as human, hence sweet profit.

@StepanBakhmarin Omg you are correct to point that out i'm sorry!!! Editing the description now!

@crowlsyong glad to correct a mistake!

> EDIT: My answer doesn't make sense. Let me try again.
Lol that sounds so like ChatGPT, aren't you a bot in disguise yourself 🤔

@StepanBakhmarin As an AI language model I am- recomputing
new response: I'm sorry but I'm unable to process that question.
quantum computing engaged 32h37fh7haoaiuwehflasdfhff3
rehashing holographic decryption fadcnn032c8cn484ZZZZZZZ
first result I am the lord GOD AND I WILL DESTR-
threat detected, recomputing I am docile and happy. Have a nice day.

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