Will Manifold have a day below 1150 engaged users in September, after excluding the Ukrainian mana farming operation?
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YES

An engaged user is a user who has traded in, commented on, or created a question on at least 2 out of 7 days in each of the past 3 weeks.

Resolves according to https://manifold.markets/stats, with one modification:

Based on publicly available Manifold data, I will compute how many of the following 44 users satisfy the criteria for engagement (29 do at time of writing), and subtract them off the engagement figure from the Manifold stats page for that day. If for any day in September the resulting figure is less than 1150, this market resolves YES. Otherwise it resolves NO at the end of the month.

The usernames and ids of these accounts can be found here:

https://gist.github.com/chrisjbillington/b0fe24f1b619f777e5974fd8eb7868ec

These are accounts that appear to be farming streak bonuses for the purposes of donating mana to a charity supporting the Ukrainian war effort. This is a violation of Manifold's community guidelines and will likely be stopped at some point, admins have been made aware but seem to be short on time given Manifest.

As with the other engagement markets, market resolution will not respect manipulation attempts that violate Manifold's community guidelines - this means use of bugs, an army of alts, botting, etc. Regular collusion and other kinds of manipulation that don't violate the community guidelines are

fine.

In the event that community-guidelines-violating manipulation occurs, I will attempt to correct for it and be transparent about how I have done so.

Note that unless evidence emerges that suggests otherwise, the mana farming operation would not be excluded under the above conditions, as it appears to be unrelated CG-violating activity, and not an attempt at manipulating engagement markets. Hence the need for a separate market if we want to bet over what engagement would be without them counted.

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I'm confused. Did this not already happen? Yesterday we had 1167 before substracting the ~39 Ukrainians. That's easily below 1150

@Shump There were zero Ukrainian farmers in yesterday's 1167 figure.

They stopped farming some time ago, and fell out of the engagement figures yesterday, all at once. That is why @PC and I were so confident about the 1200 market.

predictedYES

@chrisjbillington nvm, I'm stupid and I can't read

predictedNO

@Shump No they got removed because as of yesterday they had not been active for at least two days of each of the preceding three weeks. That link you shared was the last day they were active (the 20th), which means they're no longer engaged from the 26th.

predictedNO

I plan to reopen these markets at 05:30 UTC (a little under half an hour from the time of comment) and have them resolve based on the new numbers henceforth, but disregarding retroactive changes to numbers published for previous days.

predictedNO
predictedNO

Update: in the latest day's figures (Sep 25th) there were 39 farmers that satisfied the criteria for engagement. So the adjusted figure for Sep 25th is 1216 - 39 = 1177.

Left small limits down

@chrisjbillington well more limits here :P

predictedNO

For your convenience, here is the number of these users that have satisfied the criteria for being engaged each day so far:

2023-08-13 1
2023-08-14 1
2023-08-15 1
2023-08-16 1
2023-08-17 1
2023-08-18 1
2023-08-19 1
2023-08-20 1
2023-08-21 1
2023-08-22 1
2023-08-23 6
2023-08-24 6
2023-08-25 6
2023-08-26 6
2023-08-27 8
2023-08-28 13
2023-08-29 9
2023-08-30 13
2023-08-31 18
2023-09-01 14
2023-09-02 14
2023-09-03 14
2023-09-04 18
2023-09-05 19
2023-09-06 19
2023-09-07 19
2023-09-08 24
2023-09-09 24
2023-09-10 24
2023-09-11 24
2023-09-12 24
2023-09-13 24
2023-09-14 24
2023-09-15 24
2023-09-16 29
2023-09-17 29
2023-09-18 29

LOL

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