Paul Graham predicts YES (https://twitter.com/paulg/status/1742333500621996409): Prediction: Wokeness will recede significantly in 2024. There were always more people against it than there seemed, but many were afraid to say so. Now that it's safer to criticize it, more will. I think wokeness actually peaked in 2020 or 2021 and has been slowly contracting since then. If we're lucky this will be one of those things that dies, as Hemingway put it, "gradually, then suddenly."
Resolves to YES if it happened, NO if it didn't.
EDIT for clarification: This will evaluate the claim "Wokeness will recede significantly in 2024," whether or not the rest of Paul's claims age well or prove true.
Resolves to my subjective judgment, taking into account market activity (if consistently trades <11% or >89% will almost certainly resolve accordingly). If I am sufficiently uncertain I will consider using a Twitter poll.
[Resolution was originally via poll directly on day 1, but trader preference for change was clear]
@JimAusman That is not what we mean here. We mean what the average citizen means when they say woke. The Oxford definition simply does not match reality in 2024.
Alternatively: Wokeness is the thing that makes me not want to risk elaborating further about what wokeness means on the public internet.
If 2024 Nobel Prizes are any indicator it's a YES.
"The Washington Post Editorial Board comes out against the use of DEI statements in academic hiring": https://twitter.com/sfmcguire79/status/1792244520098095118
A bit outdated, but at least it's a comment building a case rather than querying the criteria specifics:
"SNL goes anti-woke! Fired former cast member Shane Gillis makes triumphant return as host with VERY risque jokes about race, gays and Down syndrome" (Daily Mail, Feb28)
The funnyman stunned the audience by suggesting he'd been 'nicked' by Down syndrome and using the word r*tarded
He returned as host with a shockingly risque monologue joking about Down syndrome, race and gays
In 2019 several clips surfaced in which the star used racist and homophobic slurs on numerous occasions, which got him fired from the show
@MattLashofSullivan The fact that people started to freak out ONLY on this issue(wrongness of the skin color based on known historical figures/facts), when that was a clearly predictable thing if google used data and images that represented diverse people. That showcases that people are actually racist, cause no one freaks out when ai cant do math, or is trained on inapropiate data so it will make up things, but when its the skin color, people suddenly freak out. The fact that people only started to get upset over this specific issue—AI generating historically/factually inaccurate skin tones for well-known figures/groups of people—reveals a bias. If Google used data that represented diverse populations, errors like this are predictable. It's telling that no one reacts as strongly when AI fails at math or produces inaccurate data based on another disproportionate training data, but when it comes to skin color, people suddenly freak out. Interestingly — Why?;)
Wokeness: “the quality of being alert to and concerned about social injustice and discrimination.”
That’s the Oxford dictionary definition. Is that what you will be using?
@JimAusman that's the historical definition, but in context of the tweet I think it's more about excess sensitivity to imagined symbolic issues.
@MartinRandall I would love to see what Zvi has to say about this. If the definition involves imagined issues or not will have a big impact on resolution.
@JimAusman That is not what we mean here. We mean what the average citizen means when they say woke. The Oxford definition simply does not match reality in 2024.
Alternatively: Wokeness is the thing that makes me not want to risk elaborating further about what wokeness means on the public internet.
@ZviMowshowitz If we can’t define it then we won’t be able to tell if there is more or less if it. Tell me what you believe that the average citizen means when they say woke. I don’t believe that there is a consensus definition, certainly not among the population of average citizens.
Perhaps we can use Paul Graham’s definition of wokeness, if we can figure out what it is.
@JimAusman Let me try!
On a basic bitch level it would mean "to be awake" or the "state of awakening"
BUT Semi Moore doesn't look this good at 60 bc she's BASIC.
Wokeness is a brand new ambiguous term that leads to more ambiguous terms when us brand new people try and squabble. Lets look to all of humanity for clues and really break this down into patterns we have seen throughout history. This doesnt solve it but I hope it brings you closer.
buddhism: enlightenment
hinduism: moksha
christianity: conversion
islam: hidayah
sikhism: padarath
judaism: teshuva
accelerationism: what ilya saw
???: wokeness
If you can figure out the missing clue, you have you will have it defined. I live in a well known zoo, the kind for only the refined.
The last paragraph has nothing to do with wokeness BTW. I just like poems