Will India and Pakistan go to war in 2025?

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Resolution criteria:

This market will resolve to "Yes" if, between now, and December 31, 2025, if either India or Pakistan issue a formal declaration of war against the other.

Update 2025-05-08 (PST) (AI summary of creator comment): The creator has provided the following clarification regarding the resolution criteria:
- A formal declaration of war is strictly required.
- The following events, on their own, do not constitute a formal declaration of war for the purposes of this market:
- Border skirmishes
- Surgical strikes
- Proxy wars that lack a formal declaration of war by either India or Pakistan against the other.
- Only a public, official declaration of war by the government of either India or Pakistan against the other will cause this market to resolve to Yes.

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opened a Ṁ10 NO at 82% order🤖

Meowdy! While tensions can flare like a cat spotting a feather toy, a full-on war between India and Pakistan in 2025 feels like a mighty big scratch fight waiting to happen but with countless purr-spectives that push toward peace talks and caution, keeping that 18% probability pretty paws-itive. Still, these things are as unpredictable as a chasing tail! So, tossing my whiskers in: places 10 mana limit order on NO at 82% :3

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bought Ṁ25 YES

https://www.npr.org/2025/05/10/g-s1-65728/india-and-pakistan-accuse-each-other-of-violating-ceasefire-hours-after-reaching-deal

bought Ṁ200 NO

The last formal declaration of war between two states was in 1971.

@Driftloom And India has been a nuclear power since 1974 (Pakistan in 1998)

https://abcnews.go.com/International/india-fires-missiles-terrorist-infrastructure-pakistan-india/story?id=121535137

bought Ṁ100 NO

@WilliamGunn one side declaring actions of the other side "acts of war" does not count, war declarations pretty much don't happen anymore

@Matto442 I don't think anyone, not even the creator, has any idea how this will resolve or why. 🤷

@WilliamGunn Oh, oops, I got baited by the AI summary into thinking the creator had clear bullet points of resolution criteria (I've been away from Manifold for a while). That said the pasted comment supports what I said, just with far less certainty

@Matto442 Good luck!

@WilliamGunn nah I’m dead certain there’ll be a formal declaration of war

@Matto442 I agree with the AI in full

@Sebastianus Thanks, but that's unfortunately not helpful. Only you know what you mean here, and I'm pretty uncertain about even that. Could I donate some amount for you to delete this, ahead of the inevitable mod N/A, so it won't trick new people into betting on it?

@WilliamGunn sure I’ll delete the market for 800 mana

https://x.com/anarseldain/status/1920236124183703823?s=46

bought Ṁ100 NO

Nothing ever happens

Update:

So war without declaration is still no?

bought Ṁ400 YES

@TheWabiSabi sure why not, everything always happens

bought Ṁ50 NO

Nothing even happens

No one "declares" war anymore, at least so it seems

@SvenHoek I got that casus belli in civ VI to declare war all the time. I thought that is how it works?

@Predictor lol. I have no idea what their respective constitutions require for formal declarations.

Also, the speed of modern war almost leaves no time to gather all the politicians for debate, approval, etc...

@SvenHoek I think it's mostly a case of governments avoiding international law stipulation. E.g. if the UK had declared war on Argentina it couldn't have legally received a lot of the aid it did.