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What is Quroe's favorite animal?
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3%
Triceratops - Triceratops horridus
3%
Western lowland gorilla - Gorilla gorilla gorilla
3%
Cape Buffalo - Syncerus caffer caffer
3%
Ice Worm - mesenchytraeus solifugus
3%
Giant Nematode - Placentonema gigantissima
3%
Great White Shark - Carcharodon carcharias
3%
Sonoran Desert Sidewinder - Crotalus cerastes cercobombus
3%
Cat - Felis catus
3%
Wolverine - Gulo gulo
3%
Great black-backed gull - Larus marinus 🥉
3%
Dog - Canis familiaris 🥉🥈
3%
Sea Otter - Enhydra lutris
3%
Blue Whale - Balaenoptera musculus
3%
Bornean orangutan - Pongo pygmaeus
3%
Elephant - Loxodonta africana 🥈🥈
2%
Penis snake - Atretochoana eiselti
2%
Feral pigeon - Columba livia urbana
2%
Eastern lowland gorilla - Gorilla beringei graueri
2%
Pompeii Worm - Alvinella pompejana
2%
Polar Bear - Ursus maritimus 🥈

I'm not sure what my favorite animal is. Let's decide it by a market! This March Mammal Madness inspired game will play out in phases. Aside from the Setup phase, expect each phase to last about a day or two, but I reserve the right to speed up the clock as I deem fit.


Setup phase:

Traders add animals to the market. After the setup phase is complete, traders will no longer be able to add animals to the market. Expect this phase to end some point after this other market resolves. Traders can add as many eligible animals as they wish to the market. To be eligible, add a real, non-microscopic, non-Homo-genus animal by following the provided formatting:

[common name] - [scientific name]

Example: Goldfish - Carassius auratus

A subspecies can be specified, but new animals must have a unique genus + species compares to all other animals already listed.

Selection phase:

The animal with the highest probability (the “Frontrunner”) and the lowest probability (the “Underdog”) will be selected to do battle. I will declare when the approximate cutoff time for when this selection is.

Discussion phase:

Traders can convince me why an animal should win the match up. DO NOT paste an AI / LLM output in the comments. However, I might read an AI / LLM conversation if you paste a link to it. 

Battle phase: 

  • The selected animals will appear on “The Field of Battle” in my imagination, but the animals won't necessarily feel that they are supposed to fight each other. At the very least, one should notice the other one.

  • By default, “The Field of Battle” will be the native habitat of the “Underdog”, and the boundaries of "The Field of Battle" will vary at my discretion. If the probabilities were miraculously a tie, the default habitat would be decided by a coin toss. Other animals may also be present as part of the habitat.

  • An animal wins the battle if they are last to be incapacitated, or if they are last to be capable of moving (for approximately 10 seconds), or if the other contender flees “The Field of Battle”. I myself will be the sole judge of how this plays out.

  • If the result doesn't seem manifestly obvious to me, I will use these attributes to guide my decision: temperament, weaponry, armor, body mass, speed, fight style, physiology, and motivation, all relative to the battle's habitat.

  • I will not take kindly to bribes. Don't even try.

  • I expect many matches to end by asphyxiation or by an animal wandering off. They won't know where the boundaries are, and they won't know they are in a tournament. They just want to survive and thrive.

  • Additional clarifications on The Field of Battle, sexual dimorphisms, and how animals spawn into the battle are in this comment and in following comments.

  • Clarification comment on handling lifecycle morphology and parasitism.

  • Time of year matters.

If an animal loses a battle, it will be marked as "defeated". If an animal wins a battle, that animal will continue on in the tournament, and that animal will have its memory wiped of the battle. We loop back to the Selection phase after a Battle phase if we're not at the last animal. The last animal on the market that isn't defeated and isn't ineligible resolves YES. All others, NO. "Other" will not resolve YES, but it may be a useful answer during the Setup phase. I cannot resolve market answers until the game is over.

I will award at least 100 mana to the person who adds the animal that wins this tournament. I guarantee no refund of your mana if you add an ineligible animal.

Medals:

🥉: Battles won as Underdog

🥈: Battles won as Frontrunner

🥇: Won a battle while 10 or fewer animals remain. (This is awarded instead of a bronze or silver medal.)

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There will be no AI clarifications added to this market's description.

I will not trade on this market.

The close date is a placeholder and has no bearing on this market.

This will be a very subjective market. Expect that something will be scuffed, and I will have to fix things on the fly.

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Battle phase #28!

@prismatic with the Frontrunner

Axolotl - Ambystoma mexicanum

Vs.

@vi with the Underdog

Great black-backed gull - Larus marinus

Habitat: A beach

The axolotl finds itself on the salty shores of a beach in the northern hemisphere. It being a freshwater animal, it's not having a good time here.

The gull is flying overhead and spots the axolotl! Curious of what it finds, it takes landing near it. The axolotl is generally helpless. The gull pecks at it, and quickly finds that this is, indeed, edible.

It pecks hunks of flesh out of the axolotl. If the axolotl can get away, it can likely regenerate this damage with its uncanny ability to regenerate limbs and even body parts like eyes. Unfortunetely, this axolotl is lunch for the gull, and is plucked at over and over by the gull. At times, this gull if fended off by another gull that swoops in for a few pecks at the axolotl, and these gulls go back and forth at "sharing" this spoil, but the axolotl is surely done for.

The great black-backed gull wins by a manifestly obvious victory!

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Discussion phase #28!

@prismatic with the Frontrunner

Axolotl - Ambystoma mexicanum

Vs.

@vi with the Underdog

Great black-backed gull - Larus marinus

Discuss!

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Battle phase #28!

@prismatic with the Frontrunner

Axolotl - Ambystoma mexicanum

Vs.

@vi with the Underdog

Great black-backed gull - Larus marinus

Habitat: A beach

The axolotl finds itself on the salty shores of a beach in the northern hemisphere. It being a freshwater animal, it's not having a good time here.

The gull is flying overhead and spots the axolotl! Curious of what it finds, it takes landing near it. The axolotl is generally helpless. The gull pecks at it, and quickly finds that this is, indeed, edible.

It pecks hunks of flesh out of the axolotl. If the axolotl can get away, it can likely regenerate this damage with its uncanny ability to regenerate limbs and even body parts like eyes. Unfortunetely, this axolotl is lunch for the gull, and is plucked at over and over by the gull. At times, this gull if fended off by another gull that swoops in for a few pecks at the axolotl, and these gulls go back and forth at "sharing" this spoil, but the axolotl is surely done for.

The great black-backed gull wins by a manifestly obvious victory!

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I can't see a gecko on this market, but some of you might find this interesting anyway. Such interesting critters!:

Discussion phase #27!

@prismatic with the Frontrunner

Dog - Canis familiaris

Vs.

@spiderduckpig with the Underdog

Kiwi - Apteryx australis

🐶 🥝 Discuss!

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@wolf @Bayesian @GazDownright @digory @moobunny @TheAllMemeingEye @Gen @121 @100Anonymous @vi

@prismatic Dog breed "character select"? (The dog probably won't get a human companion because it does not get to fight on its home turf.)

@Quroe Jack Russell Terrier

bought Ṁ50 NO

@Quroe I’m pretty sure this one happens irl often enough. Too often, really.

@moobunny Got a video?

@Quroe it seems likely that the dog will win again. https://animals.sandiegozoo.org/animals/kiwi
See the section where they say that kiwis are not evolved to escape from mammal predators.

@100Anonymous Excellent citation!

For the record, I'm still open to arguments for either side.

@Quroe I was about to to give a link to kangaroos fighting dogs, but then I checked the discussion comment and realized it was actually a kiwi as underdog, but surprisingly there are better sources for kiwis than kangaroos.

Battle phase #27!

@prismatic with the Frontrunner

Dog - Canis familiaris

Vs.

@spiderduckpig with the Underdog

Kiwi - Apteryx australis

Habitat: A New Zealand forest, night time

The Jack Russel Terrier finds itself in a forest. It's not terribly moist or thickly vegetated. Think of a forest you would enjoy going on a hike in. However, this encounter takes place during nightfall -- kiwis are active at night, and they have the home field advantage.

The terrier thinks like a hunting dog. They are bred specifically for hunting red foxes, so many skills will translate to this encounter. A kiwi is rummaging around for food in the dirt nearby. The terrier hears the forceful exhalations of the kiwi. The kiwi's nostrils are at the end of its long beak, so it has to keep those tubes clear by forcefully blowing its nose. The kiwi is spotted by the terrier!

The terrier bolts for the kiwi. The kiwi doesn't have the best reflexes to this approaching threat in the brush, but it begins to turn tail and scamper. The terrier is much faster and catches up to the kiwi. It's not terribly hindered by the darkness. It gains on it, then grabs purchase on the flightless bird.

The kiwi is really vulnerable to crushing force. It evolved in a way that didn't give it much physical defense against natural predators, mostly because its environment didn't have any until invasive species and humans entered their environment.

The terrier proudly boasts its prize in its mouth. The kiwi is helpless and has taken lethal damage from the terrier's bite. With its hunting instincts satisfied, the terrier has easily won this by a manifestly obvious victory.

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@Quroe RIP birb.

The kiwi's nostrils are at the end of its long beak, so it has to keep those tubes clear by forcefully blowing its nose.

Didn't know this fun little fact. Interesting!

Discussion phase #26!

@wolf with the Frontrunner

Red Fox - Vulpes vulpes

Vs.

@1bets with the Underdog

Giant Dragonfly - Meganeuropsis permiana

Who let the dogs foxes out? Discuss!

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@Quroe Dragonflies have what 98% kill ratio, or was it 80% ? Sure it was high, and had an 8. Dragonfly's also can hover like hummingbirds, like everybody knows. I can definitely see the dragonfly "buzzing" the fox. Often do to me. Whether that is enough to spook the fox is an interesting question.

@JussiVilleHeiskanen A kill ratio against gnats, perhaps. 😆

@Quroe Pick your targets, pick your targets...

@Quroe Had to check and they take on horseflies, which to me is impressive. And they are cannibals.

@JussiVilleHeiskanen Wanna help make my job easier with a source for that claim?

opened a Ṁ20 NO at 2% order

@Quroe Come on foxy! you can do it!

@JussiVilleHeiskanen Is it weird that the photos aren't loading for me?

@Quroe No, I didn't get them either. Actually I think probably the links in that article may be more relevant than the article itself.

@Quroe for what it is worth, ai infocapsule only suggests slow moving creepy crawlies as food for fox, not sure about foxes reflexes. My image is stalk, chase, and pounce, rather than reflex reactions. Could be wrong.

@JussiVilleHeiskanen Also, my image of a fox is mostly attacking from above. Don't know if it's paws can reach up high into the air.

@JussiVilleHeiskanen For what it's worth, I have not done my deep dive yet.

That being said, we know one must notice the other as a canon event. Whether or not they would want to directly engage is another thing.

Battle phase #26!

@wolf with the Frontrunner

Red Fox - Vulpes vulpes

Vs.

@1bets with the Underdog

Giant Dragonfly - Meganeuropsis permiana

Habitat: A prehistoric river in a forest

The red fox finds itself in a prehistoric world. The atmosphere is rich in oxygen. This gives the red fox a heightened sense of its surroundings in the short term, but this will begin to take a toll on its body if it continues to exist in this time period for a few more days.

The giant dragonfly zips up and down the river in search of prey. It spots the red fox! It's a bit bigger than its usual prey, but it flits a little closer to further examine the fox.

The fox hears the intense buzzing of the nearby dragonfly, and it's immediately set on alert.

The dragonfly zooms up closer to the fox to size it up and see if it is capable of feeding on it.

The fox is equally quick thinking. It might also be able to kill the dragonfly and eat it. The fox pounces at the giant dragonfly in an attempt to smack it out of the air. The dragonfly has much faster reflex times and backs off easily enough.

The fox begins to see this as a sort of game. It winds up for a playful pounce -- a second chance at a giant insect meal. It pounces, and misses once more.

The dragonfly realizes this is not easy prey, and one wrong move could be fatal. It zips away in search of an easier meal. It's better to disengage and go find more of its usual helpless prey.

The fox wins!

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See previous Red Fox research here.

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@Quroe Was this deemed manifestly obvious?