Is this a cumulative market or not? The description makes it sound like only 1 answer resolves YES

This market will resolve to "Yes" for the earliest option

@Tripping it’ll resolve yes to all the valid answers for sure

@Tripping all valid options

More robotics question here

What if (a) you're legally allowed to read a book or otherwise have your eyes fully off the road, (b) you're not technically allowed to be asleep, but (c) it's generally accepted that it's fine to doze off, that the car will beep and wake you if it needs you?

@dreev (a) is close but I also have to be legally allowed to be asleep.

All the NO bets are making me sad 😔

@Mochi We're just increasing the bounty for somebody to bet against us. Maybe it will spur someone to make it a reality.

Buy No in everything right???

@Eliza It depends???

@Quroe it's still not clear whether Mochi actually has to try it or if it just has to be available.

@Eliza See below.

This will resolve YES when Tesla FSD allows me to sleep while driving to Tahoe for a ski trip.

@Mochi If it allows you to sleep, or if you actually end up sleeping?

@Quroe Allows me to sleep. Whether my survival instincts let me actually sleep through FSD over Donner Pass is a separate market.

@Mochi Do you personally need to verify the capability? What if your Tesla explodes before market resolution?

@Quroe I’ll personally verify it the moment it’s both legally and technologically allowed. If it explodes, I’ll be on Craigslist searching “lightly toasted Tesla, fsd available” to get my hands on one

@Mochi you could sleep in a Waymo driving from SF to SJ right now, no? Why does it have to be Tesla? If Tesla is a hard req, maybe rename?

@DavidFWatson you take a lot of nice background pictures that come up on my TV btw

@DavidFWatson In a Waymo I wouldn’t really be the “driver,” I’d just be a passenger in a robotaxi. The spirit here is more: a commercially available passenger vehicle where the occupant in the driver’s seat can legally stop monitoring and sleep while it drives. Doesn’t have to be Tesla — that’s just what I have access to right now. If Waymo or anyone else sells/rents a vehicle with that functionality, I’d gladly get my hands on one and test the Tahoe nap thesis.

@Mochi “commercially available” is probably the wrong term, Waymo is “commercially available” you mean “individually owned” or something similar.

@DavidFWatson good point, “commercially available to own” is a better description

@Mochi sorry to be pedantic, what about a vehicle that’s only available for lease? What if it is sold, but only allows FSD via subscription (prior purchase of fsd package from Tesla should presumably be counted as not a sub since they did once offer it)

@DavidFWatson Never be sorry to be pedantic on Manifold. It will save us all later if the question becomes pertinent.

@DavidFWatson only available for lease is fine, as long as it’s available to regular people and I can take control of the vehicle at anytime, which is not possible through Robo cab services currently. Subscription service also suffices. Let’s say if Waymo suddenly is available for leasing services, and I can take control of the vehicle + the vehicle can drive to Tahoe uninterrupted while I sleep, it would be sufficient to resolve YES.

and as Quroe said, we appreciate the pedantry to make everything clear

@Mochi and what if Texas jumps way ahead and legalizes a total free for all? Will we stick with the Tahoe standard? (I assume you meant Bay Area to Tahoe)

@Mochi There seems to be an implicit death market here. What if, not the car, but instead, you explode? Can a moderator take ownership of this market, or would it have to resolve N/A?

@DavidFWatson then I ll fly over to Texas and use Colorado Salt Lake City standard (wherever closest ski resort is to Texas)

@Mochi wait, Colorado and Salt Lake City aren’t in Texas. And would you really fly to Texas, buy a car there, and then test this ? Are we betting on whether you’ll be in the market for a new car in a different state?

@DavidFWatson my initial intention was for the service to be available in all of US, but I am realizing different states may have different rules. So in the case of Texas being the only state with this service, I will count it if I can sleep while the car drives itself on a roadtrip in Texas >4 hours of distance. I can rent a car in Texas or drive my car to Texas to test, not necessarily buying a car.

@Quroe if I explode and not around to manage the market, mods have the permission to resolve from their experience.