Why do real-money markets have Biden's odds so much lower than us? [Resolves N/A in one week, 500 mana to best answer]
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Probability distortion (from prospect theory): people risk seek when faced with low prob. gains and high prob. losses, and are risk averse in the opposite circumstance. Therefore, low prob. events are systemically overvalued by money sites.
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You don't get loans on Polymarket!
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Real-money prediction markets better incentivize accurate reporting of beliefs than Manifold. (They historically outperformed Manifold in liquid markets where there was disagreement.)
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Not enough smart money outside the US with US politics markets on their radar
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Real money usually isn't obtained by being a good predictor. Real money markets are weighted towards what people with the most money think, not what the smartest predictors think.
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Opportunity cost. Only people with extreme opinions can rationally bet
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People tend to bet on candidates they want to win to win, and Biden is not very popular with people on real money market sites so they bet on him less.
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Structural differences in the dynamics of the markets. (See my comment: https://manifold.markets/Joshua/why-do-realmoney-markets-have-biden#N0Gs7kMb6EmwGVjDkLkk)
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Each prediction market is arbitraging the different answers to add up to 100, so positive bets on random candidates are inadvertently negative bets on Biden
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Best real money predictors prefer markets with quick turnaround, so real money markets are less accurate than usual for long term predictions.
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Real money sites are more Republican-leaning than Manifold. Predictors' political opinions have a notable impact on election predictions. Participation in (real or fake) election betting is not highly correlated with a bettors' EV.
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Polymarket's (market maker) reward structure forces the market at a price point where there is no strong incentive for either side to place bets.
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People who want a safe investment put their money into index funds, not illegal crypto bets on an 81 year old man's health. Those that are willing to take the risk of betting on this are going to prefer to bet on the less likely outcome.
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Real money markets have fees, withdrawal costs, etc which make their prices less accurate.
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Fewer participants in real-money markets due to various barriers-to-entry, so those markets disproportionately reflect the opinions of a few highly involved traders
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People think that the low personal opinion of Biden of themselves and their surroundings make Biden less likely to win.
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Manifold users are overestimating Biden's chances due to their pro-Biden personal environments. Conversely, in money-based markets, people often have a pro-Trump biased enviroment, leading to an overestimation of his chances.
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Because real money prediction markets are illegal in many places, they are skewed towards the opinions of people in locations where the prevailing opinion is that Biden has much less of a chance of winning than he really does.
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Manifold users overestimate Biden's chance for unspecified reason
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The users are more likely to be under 35 and lower-middle-class, thus engaging in more "wishful betting" against a Democratic primary challenge.

Manifold thinks Biden is 90% likely to be the Democratic Party nominee. Metaculus says it's 94%.

Meanwhile, Polymarket thinks this is only 78% likely. Other real-money markets are similarly low, with ElectionBettingOdds's average putting it at 71.4%.

In the 538 Politics Podcast this week, the 538 crew mostly agreed with current prediction market prices on other 2024 questions but universally agreed that Biden's chances were much higher than 78%. Nathaniel Rakich, who I might trust more than anyone else on this, said it should be 95%.

So why are the real money markets so low?


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