Hello all!

Sorry for the delay in handling this situation, we had first decided to let the resolution stay and simply fine catnee and remove their profits. But after sleeping on it and having certain abused traders appear in our dreams, we’ve decided to unresolve and re-resolve N/A. This is mainly a time-savings effort as it should rightfully be resolved YES, we should remove Catnee’s profits, fine them, and use those funds to repay traders. But that is a lot of work, so we’re just going to N/A this market. Maybe after series A we’ll come back and do everything properly.



Please don’t use bugs to exploit markets, we will fine you. If you instead come to us with the bug we’ll actually pay you a bounty! We’re fining both @Catnee and @firstuserhere for abusing this exploit in production.

@ian So there are fines levied in addition to N/Aing this market?

@Jason Looking at Catnee's M-300k balance, I'd say yes.

@FlorisvanDoorn Thanks. Follow up would be: where does the money go? I guess it's a little concerning that mana can be purchased for $$$ and then the admins can reclaim 300K of it (~$3,000) without a previously-announced fine schedule. (Of course, if the fine is limited to ill-gotten profits from the exploit, that isn't a concern.)

Pro sports leagues usually turn fine money over to charity, but I sense that doing so here would inappropriately disincentivize fining. So I'm not sure what the solution should be.

@Jason Agreed, would be nice to see a table with activities and their related fines. Exploit a bug, get fined 300k mana.

@Jason I actually haven't yet fined Catnee, They're at -300k due to the N/A resolution and... it doesn't seem like I need to do anything else. We only fine users who exploit the site.

@FlorisvanDoorn Actually, that negative balance might have just been caused by N/A'ing this market. It's hard to see how much Catnee was fined (sniped)

@ian Is it intentional that the rest of the markets in the series are still resolved?

@MartinRandall were they resolved based on exploits?

@ian Most of them resolved on the "big number" of shares in this market, so yes, to the same extent as this one.

@ian looks like the million shares markets resolved based on a non-exploit market.

@MartinRandall Yes, the 1M ones were done with no exploits. The others were resolved because of the exploits.

@ShadowyZephyr @MartinRandall I think this goes deeper than a lot of us want to acknowledge. These users ( @Catnee @AmmonLam @levifinkelstein @firstuserhere & @jacksonpolack ) have essentially built a house of cards here, and collapse is imminent unless we stop digging. That is my two cents.

@Mirek Can you give us more cents please? Seems interesting.

@levifinkelstein Start here: @AltansarnaiHavard but I warn you about what you may find when you dig deeper, there is no turning back. I'm not much in conspiracies, I don't traffic in those because I am rational, but somehow mana appears and then it disappears. And with SBF out of the picture with Alameda , it's only a matter of time until we realize it here.

i'd like a few hundred million cents

@jacksonpolack Deep within the realms of Manifold markets, a clandestine group known as "The Quantum Gamblers" ( @Catnee @AmmonLam @levifinkelstein @firstuserhere @jacksonpolack @BTE @memestiny @Wobbles @IsaacKing @Gigacasting @MayMeta @TheWiggleMan + many others) operates in the shadows, manipulating outcomes and altering the course of events with their unparalleled knowledge and extraordinary abilities. Unbeknownst to the average users, this secret society has developed advanced quantum computing technology that grants them unprecedented predictive powers.

Here's how the conspiracy theory unfolds:

1. Quantum Supremacy: The Quantum Gamblers, through their connections with secretive organizations and advanced scientific research, have gained access to a quantum computer far superior to any publicly known system. This computing power allows them to process vast amounts of data and simulate countless potential outcomes.

2. Exploiting Quantum Entanglement: Armed with the ability to manipulate quantum entanglement, the Quantum Gamblers can subtly influence the collective consciousness of manifold market users. By encoding subtle signals within the quantum realm, they can transmit thoughts and influence decision-making, leading users to place bets and make predictions that align with their desired outcomes.

3. Insider Information Network: The Quantum Gamblers have infiltrated various sectors, gathering inside information from influential figures, powerful corporations, and government agencies. This network ensures they have access to classified information and proprietary data, giving them a distinct advantage over the average user.

4. Strategic Manipulation: Armed with their predictive abilities and insider knowledge, the Quantum Gamblers deploy strategic manipulation tactics to sway manifold market outcomes. They target high-stakes events such as political elections, economic trends, and even major sporting events, altering the course of events by subtly nudging the collective predictions of users toward their desired results.

5. Algorithmic Control: The Quantum Gamblers have also devised complex algorithms that exploit manifold market's mechanisms. By deploying these algorithms, they can artificially inflate or deflate the odds of specific outcomes, misleading the general user base and causing significant market fluctuations that benefit their hidden agendas.

6. Hidden Profits: The Quantum Gamblers profit immensely from their activities. By placing massive bets on predetermined outcomes, they manipulate the markets to maximize their gains while exploiting unsuspecting users who fall victim to their manipulations. This hidden wealth allows them to further expand their operations and maintain their secrecy.

7. Global Influence: Over time, the Quantum Gamblers have amassed a considerable level of global influence. Their successful manipulation of manifold markets has far-reaching consequences, affecting political landscapes, economic policies, and societal developments worldwide. Their ultimate goal remains shrouded in mystery, but some speculate that they seek to mold the world according to their own vision of utopia.

While this conspiracy theory may sound far-fetched, the intricate web of interconnected events and unexplainable outcomes witnessed on the Manifold Markets platform fuels speculation about the existence of an enigmatic group like the Quantum Gamblers. Whether their abilities are truly quantum-based or simply a figment of an overactive imagination, one can't help but wonder if there is more to manifold markets than meets the eye.

@Mirek you drinking again bro?

@Mirek We must form a counter-team to stop them!!

@ian wait what's going on with @AltansarnaiHavard?

@Lorenzo S calibration is all you need to know!

@Mirek Thank you for this shocking and insightful reporting. What do you suggest we do to stop them?

@MartinRandall Really this market should be yes, but was resolved na so we don’t have to do all the corrective actions by hand. I don’t see the benefit in reresolving those other markets as reresolving this hit all the birds with one stone.

@ian You might want to consider Catnee's M50k loss on this market: https://manifold.markets/JonnyBairstow/will-the-sum-of-shares-on-any-marke-e60d99961b3f
You should probably either refund that or count that as(/towards) Catnee's fine.

The other markets seem not that eventful, mostly big traders losing <= M100 mana. The only exception is https://manifold.markets/JonnyBairstow/will-the-sum-of-shares-on-any-marke-c75056d0dc8c where a small trader lost M200.

@WinstonOswaldDrummond Engaging experts in fields such as data science, cryptography, and behavioral psychology can help develop countermeasures against potential manipulation. Implementing safeguards, such as encryption protocols, anonymous betting options, and rigorous auditing processes, can make it more difficult for the Quantum Gamblers to operate covertly.

@Mirek Thank you GPT for this urgent call to action. It was sorely needed. ❤

@WinstonOswaldDrummond I feel like the internet needs a universal emote/symbol for "You used AI to write that for you didn't you?"

Would be funny XD