Will the NHTSA allow any cars on the road without steering wheels, mirrors, turn signals or windshield wipers in 2023?
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"steering wheels, mirrors, turn signals or windshield wipers"... one of these is not like the others. Steering wheels, mirrors and windshield wipers are meant for humans operating the car. Do you mean controls for the turn signals? It looks like "turn signals" was added in the Reuters article and is not present in, say, this article on the NHTSA website https://www.nhtsa.gov/speeches-presentations/automated-road-transportation-symposium-arts23-keynote-address

I'm not sufficiently motivated to look up the petition itself at this moment. I do believe you will need to resolve this market based on your wording, and to me it seems really unlikely a car without turn signals would be allowed.

predictedNO

@ianminds Chill son , the lever stalk for the turn signal very obviously. you people smh

predictedYES

@ianminds I'm confused. The wording says OR in the question

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@PC It's ambiguous. "You came here without income, wealth, or education" means something different if it's followed by "...and now you have an education," vs. "...I can't remember which."

IMHO, A car without a turn signal would not be approved. Traffic regulations mandate it in several situations. Even if autonomous vehicles are just as good or better than humans, their ability to drive doesn’t make a good argument for getting rid of turn signals.

You could make an argument that they’re redundant if ALL cars on the road are autonomous and could communicate via other means, but there’s practically ZERO chance of that happening by the end of the year. Heck, some people still use horse and buggy.

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@nottelling2ccc It means the turn signal in the car, don't be stupid

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@Mirek Okay, thanks for the clarification. “turn signals” meaning “a way for a human to manually control the turn signals” was not at all obvious to me. I think it would be good to clarify that in the market description. 🙃

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@nottelling2ccc I guess I was stupid enough to bet "no" on that very same assumption. To me, "turn signals" means those blinky lights!

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@JensFiederer Same. Is this not the common definition?

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@AlexWilson Well, it IS, but the tricky part is that nobody outside of an auto parts store ever says "turn signal SWITCH", which might be what should have been in the title, although technically the relay or whatever used to activate the turn signals in a computer-driven car could probably be described the same way, too. Maybe turn signal switch HANDLE.

I can see why they wrote it that way, I might have done the same. But unfortunately my interpretation of this made it seem like super easy money!

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