When will Manifold restore automatic loans (for power users)?
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2.2kṀ17k
resolved Dec 31
100%98.8%
Not by end of December 30
0.1%
Thursday, Dec. 21
0.1%
Friday, Dec. 22
0.1%
Saturday, Dec. 23
0.1%
Sunday, Dec. 24 (Christmas Eve)
0.1%
Monday, Dec. 25 (Christmas Day)
0.6%Other

Manifold loans are no longer automatic and now require clicking a button every day. While it could have some benefits, especially for users who don't understand the loan system, it's widely considered to be an annoyance for power users, with many saying in the Discord that it would be a major turn-off. It's especially annoying for bot users.

Main ways this market would resolve:

  • A settings toggle for "Enable automatic loans" is added

  • The loans become automatic for everyone again

  • The loans become automatic for users who meet some activity/credit-worthiness threshold (e.g. over 10k net worth, active for over a month, etc)

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General policy for my markets: In the rare event of a conflict between my resolution criteria and the agreed-upon common-sense spirit of the market, I may resolve it according to the market's spirit or N/A, probably after discussion.

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@Conflux resolves Not by?

@Eliza it didn't happen by December 30th, so therefore "Not by Dec 30th" is true.

@Conflux since there's a "not by end of Dec 30th" option, does that imply any options added for dates after Dec 30th will be ignored?

@chrisjbillington Yes, I will resolve to “Not by end of December 30” at end of Dec 30 if this hasn’t happened

I bet down Not by the end of 30 Dec to about 80% -- he's actively working on this today and has already made a commit related to the loan button. But adding an automatic option would probably be a little bit more work.

Shouldn't the options for the 21st and 22nd resolve at this point?

@josh Not possible on a market like this

@Conflux Huh. I've seen multi-way markets like this (which seem to be a set of individual markets) where a subset of the markets have been resolved. Is this a different kind of market than those?

@josh here the options are related, probability of all options sums to 1 (100%). In the markets you are refferencing each option is its own submarket so probability does not necessarily sum to 1. There you can resolve each submarket, here you have to resolve the whole market.

Did Manifold say somewhere that they weren’t doing this?? It seems awful not to

@Conflux I'm sure they will, but it doesn't seem like a high priority for their holiday break

@MichaelWheatley Oh, I see. Was using this as a proxy for “they won’t do it” when I shouldn’t have

I'm not sure what position to take due to the impending holiday.

@Eliza If I knew for sure who was and was not "at work" today and tomorrow, I would proooooobably take a position for those two, but I'm not confident in my reading of their schedules.

@Eliza My bet is more of a signal of hope than a statement of my belief in what will happen.

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