What will be true of OpenAI's Sora* model, at the end of 2025? [*see description]
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98.3%
Video will include sound
8%
It can generate videos over 10 minutes long
3%
It has been renamed
26%
It will be the SOTA for text to video
12%
A youtube movie >2h will be made with only Sora and splicing videos together will get > 10M views
2%
A third major version of the model has been released
33%
A youtube video made only with Sora will get > 100M views
72%
It has a logo separate from the OpenAI logo
5%
There will be a new monthly subscription that includes sora and dalle for creatives
3%
The Sora line of models proves to be useful for purposes where the video is secondary, such as research into physics, medicine, and weather
37%
It will be jailbroken to make a porn video
3%
Eliezer Yudkowsky has stated or implied that the current version or an obsolete version of the model poses or had posed an existential threat to civilization
6%
The model has had a non-trivial effect on the everday life of the average American, as judged by @Bayesian
2%
The Sora line of models are being used as simulators for legal investigations - including but not limited to predicting events leading to accidents and crimes
12%
Sora will be part of GPT model
49%
At least 2 Manifold questions will contain a Sora-generated video in their header
83%
It will still be trickable into replicating at least some popular copyrighted material (text prompt only)
12%
It will be free to use
40%
It will be the most popular text to video tool (determined by google search trends)
73%
It has been referenced in a legal case about deepfakes

Unless otherwise specified, the options are about the state of OpenAI's latest video model at the end of 2025. Options about things that might happen before then, or by a specific date before then, are also acceptable.

I'll N/A duplicates and options I consider to not be valid. If an option refers to an external source, I encourage the option creator to notify me when/if the option should resolve.

For the purpose of this market, any Text-to-Video model released by OpenAI after Sora will count.

Some clarification:

  • "released" counts widespread public release OR widespread access to corporations, through partnerships or wtv else

  • the "Nth" model doesn't require release in the sense mentioned above. Sora is the 1st model, whether or not it ever gets "released". any new model announced after Sora for text-to-video counts as the 2nd model. and so on.

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bought Ṁ10 YES

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=sora,Ai%20video
Looks pretty popular to me, although it's not exactly clear to me what the comparison should be.

bought Ṁ150 YES

This should resolve yes in my opinion: the logo used for the app (also seen in the watermarks; "Cloud-chan" as some people call it) bears no resemblance to the usual OpenAI butthole logo.

bought Ṁ250 YES

I think Sora will not be #1 because it’s not a good name for a vid generator

@Bayesian Resolves NO

@JamesF Can you clarify what "sued over the model" means? Is this sued for damages due to video generated by the model, or sued over their use of training data for the model, or sued over using a proprietary file format as part of the model, or something else entirely?

I'm trying to get a feel for what kind of lawsuits should qualify, or if any lawsuit even slightly related to the model should qualify.

Latest Sora ‘short film’ released here - https://youtu.be/yplb0yBEiRo?feature=shared

But given most offical openAI videos only get max 2M I doubt it’ll reach 100M

Does this mean released to the public or does released to red teamers or even a corporation count

@JamesF good question, I didn't really expect what's happening with the 1st model to happen when i made that option. ig I'll go for:

if users or corporations can widely request access and a large # of em get access, it counts as released

open to feedback / disagreement, like if many ppl saw it differently im willing to consider N/A and remake the option more clearly

a few things here are brought up. not much that hasn't been mentioned elsewhere though

they say that they won't be making sora available "any time soon"..

bought Ṁ10 NO

I'm pretty sure it's unlikely to be both pay per use and accessible through chatgpt.

@ProjectVictory Why not? Is that not the case for the current models?

@Bayesian No; if you use Dall-E through your ChatGPT Plus subscription, I don't believe you're charged separately for the image generation.

@apetresc (Unless you mean, like, separately, because you could use DallE-3 through the API as well as use it for free through ChatGPT Plus)

Do both models need to be released separately? Or would this resolve YES if they never release the recently demoed version and then only release what is announced as a second version?

Would this resolve YES if the data created in a game engine were not created for the purpose of AI training, e.g. if the training data included a video of a game from YouTube? (I assume not, we already know it was trained on Minecraft videos)

@FH7979e That would not count

How does this resolve if it was banned at some point during the year, but was unbanned later in 2024 (a la ChatGPT in Italy)

@CharlesPaul the phrasing means it's asking about whether it'll be banned at the end of 2025. to ask whether it would be banned for any temporary amount of time in any EU country, you could ask "it'll have been banned in at least one EU country for at least some amount of time" or smth

does “free to use” resolve yes if they have a set up like “each user gets 30 minutes a month of video free, but you have to pay beyond that.” What about if they have a similar situation to GPT3 before Nobember 2022 where you got free tokens for signing up with them, but once they are gone you had to pay?

@Bayesian I guess I'd argue YES in the first example and NO in the second- the difference being that the tokens renew themselves regularly and give the user continued use. Happy to defer to your resolution if it gets complicated.

opened a Ṁ333 YES at 10% order

what if it's free via, like, Bing Chat, and sustainably so, so not just a one-time free amount of tokens?

I would guess that would count as YES

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