Will chemical weapons be used in Ukraine by the end of 2023?
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resolved Feb 28
Resolved
NO

[left open while waiting for the resolution criteria below - please read the entire description before betting]

Does not need to lead to deaths to resolve YES, but only use as a military technique counts, not as an assassination technique.

Per https://manifold.markets/AndyMartin/will-chemical-weapons-be-used-in-uk#Xfufv9JlsL4TYNIemLIi this will use the following resolution criteria:

  • The heads of state of at least two permanent members of the UN Security Council make a definitive statement to the effect that Russia has used chemical weapons.

  • There is a resolution by the UNSC or by the UN General Assembly condemning the use of chemical weapons in the Ukraine by Russia.

  • At least 6 of the following sources make a definitive statement that Russia has used chemical weapons: The Economist, The New York Times, Reuters, The Associated Press, The Guardian, The BBC, Al Jazeera, South China Morning Post, The Financial Times, The Washington Post.

As of Dec 25th, there have been reports like https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/19/europe/ukraine-soldiers-russia-frontlines-cmd-intl/index.html of tear gas use, and even https://understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-december-23-2023 reporting that the Russian forces involved have confirmed their own use of them. I may wait up to an additional 3 months to resolve this, but will only use reporting/resolution/statements that cover chemical weapons use in 2023 for resolution.

(I may also simply resolve this N/A.)

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@AndyMartin this is inaccurate, it should be resolved yes

@Lorelai could you provide links that meet the resolution criteria in the description?

predicted NO

@AndyMartin If you're going to wait up to three months to resolve, why not leave the market open in that time?

@chrisjbillington re-opened and added this to the top of the description

[left open while waiting for the resolution criteria below - please read the entire description before betting]

bought Ṁ50 of YES

Russia Admits Using Prohibited Chemical Weapons on Ukrainian Troops

https://www.kyivpost.com/post/25906

bought Ṁ10 YES at 9%
bought Ṁ1,000 of NO

@Abraxas it really should be in the description, but the standard of evidence the creator is requiring for a YES resolution is:

  • The heads of state of at least two permanent members of the UN Security Council make a definitive statement to the effect that Russia has used chemical weapons.

  • There is a resolution by the UNSC or by the UN General Assembly condemning the use of chemical weapons in the Ukraine by Russia.

  • At least 6 of the following sources make a definitive statement that Russia has used chemical weapons: The Economist, The New York Times, Reuters, The Associated Press, The Guardian, The BBC, Al Jazeera, South China Morning Post, The Financial Times, The Washington Post.

bought Ṁ50 of YES

@chrisjbillington lol oh jeez, thanks for linking that. Wish that was more prominent

@Abraxas yeah sorry about that - I updated the description with this:

Per https://manifold.markets/AndyMartin/will-chemical-weapons-be-used-in-uk#Xfufv9JlsL4TYNIemLIi this will use the following resolution criteria:

  • The heads of state of at least two permanent members of the UN Security Council make a definitive statement to the effect that Russia has used chemical weapons.

  • There is a resolution by the UNSC or by the UN General Assembly condemning the use of chemical weapons in the Ukraine by Russia.

  • At least 6 of the following sources make a definitive statement that Russia has used chemical weapons: The Economist, The New York Times, Reuters, The Associated Press, The Guardian, The BBC, Al Jazeera, South China Morning Post, The Financial Times, The Washington Post.

As of Dec 25th, there have been reports like https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/19/europe/ukraine-soldiers-russia-frontlines-cmd-intl/index.html of tear gas use, and even https://understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-december-23-2023 reporting that the Russian forces involved have confirmed their own use of them. I may wait up to an additional 3 months to resolve this, but will only use reporting/resolution/statements that cover chemical weapons use in 2023 for resolution.

(I may also simply resolve this N/A.)

predicted YES

@AndyMartin what criteria are you going to use to decide if something counts as a chemical weapon?

@42irrationalist will use the criteria from https://www.metaculus.com/questions/10448/russian-use-of-chemical-weapons-in-ua-2022/ (ignoring the parts that mention/require attribution)

@AndyMartin The criteria around heads of state of UN countries having to declare that chemical weapons were used? Or just the definition of chemical weapons?

Can you confirm whether use of tear gas as linked below counts?

@chrisjbillington tear gas would count - it's just missing one of these three:

any of the following three conditions are met:

  • The heads of state of at least two permanent members of the UN Security Council make a definitive statement to the effect that Russia has used chemical weapons.

  • There is a resolution by the UNSC or by the UN General Assembly condemning the use of chemical weapons in the Ukraine by Russia.

  • At least 6 of the following sources make a definitive statement that Russia has used chemical weapons: The Economist, The New York Times, Reuters, The Associated Press, The Guardian, The BBC, Al Jazeera, South China Morning Post, The Financial Times, The Washington Post.

(with the caveat mentioned above that attribution to Russia or Ukraine isn't necessary)

@AndyMartin Excellent, thanks for the clarification.

bought Ṁ100 of YES

Shouldn't this resolve as YES now. There are reports of Russia using tear gas grenades in Bakhmut. Despite these grenades being used for riot control, it's actually prohibited to use them during warfare.

https://tsn.ua/en/amp/ato/evidences-of-the-enemy-s-use-of-chemical-weapons-are-being-collected-on-the-battlefield-russians-boast-about-violation-of-the-rules-of-war-on-their-tv-2289907.html

predicted YES

@higherLEVELING Meduza is a fairly reliable source, in my opinion. It's one of the main Russian opposition media (they are located outside of Russia).

There is also a mention in a Conflict Intelligence Team's sitrep ("situation report"), an independent team (leaning pro-Ukraine).

bought Ṁ40 of NO

it seems surprising to me that this is so much higher than https://manifold.markets/Gabrielle/will-russia-use-chemical-or-biologi-e790d5158f6a

bought Ṁ50 of NO

@AndyMartin The timeframes for the questions are quite different

predicted NO

fwiw it was at 62 when ^ was posted