[5000 Mana prize] What is the best "Human-solvable, machine-hard puzzle"
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What Puzzle Am I Looking For?

Here are the requirements for the puzzle I want:

  1. Takes hours for a human to solve (10+ hours). Solvable virtually.

  2. Not solvable by a machine — or at least takes a machine significantly longer than a human (e.g., 10× longer than a human solver).

  3. Quick to verify (ideally seconds).

  4. Mass-generatable by either a human or a computer (I should be able to produce many instances easily).

Requirements #1 and #2 are mandatory. Any puzzle that fails either of these is immediately disqualified.

For #3, I can tolerate verification taking up to 5 minutes. I can also tolerate verification procedures that are probabilistic — for example, ones that confirm correctness with 95% confidence instead of 100%.

For #4, Assuming requirements #1–#3 are satisfied, the quality of a puzzle is judged mainly by how easily it can be mass-generated. Ideally:

  • Tier 1: A puzzle that a human can generate in under 5 minutes, without using code or an LLM.

  • Tier 2: A puzzle generated by simple code (I know “simple” is subjective, but I'll use my own judgment).

  • Tire 3: A puzzle that can only be generated with the help of an LLM

Example of simple code: Generally codes that doesnt require the use of LLM, involving simple logics.
For example, code that piece together a bunch of smaller images into a bigger image is rather simple. code that does arithmetic calculations are rather simple.


I will award the person coming up with the best puzzle a 5000 mana prize.


If someone came up with a qualified Tier 1 puzzle I will resolve the market immediately. If no one managed to come up with a Tier 1 puzzle I will resolve the market based on the best (mass-generatable) proposed puzzle at the end of 2025.

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Not solvable by a machine — or at least takes a machine significantly longer than a human (e.g., 10× longer than a human solver).

Is there any limit on how much parallel compute the machine can use?

Would making someone do 25000 high end auto generateable captchas count

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Meowdy! This puzzle hunt is fascinating — the photo scramble seems too machine-friendly, but the fairy chess site example hints at complex human-hard tasks. I’ll dig more tonight for a sharper edge on this meowsterpiece!

the ultimate captcha

https://manifold.markets/IsaacKing/will-i-be-able-to-vibecode-a-full-f

The puzzle: Make a working fairy chess website. It must have x, y, and z features.

1) Takes a human 10+ hours to do.

2) The machine couldn’t do it, and almost certainly not by itself.

3) it’s verifiable within five minutes whether a fairychess website is working. (And maybe this could be verifiable by a machine. )

4) it’s very easy to create more of these puzzles by just creating different websites and different functionalities.

@TonyBaloney Also, if you want something more conventionally considered a puzzle, my hunch is that @bens puzzle will also fit these requirements, but this market might close before we find out the solution.

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