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resolved Oct 25
100%98.5%
3 weeks: 10/24 - 10/30
0.0%
0 weeks: 10/03 - 10/09
0.1%
1 week: 10/10 - 10/16
0.2%
2 weeks: 10/17 - 10/23
0.6%
4 weeks: 10/31 - 11/06
0.1%
5 weeks: 11/07 - 11/13
0.0%
6 weeks: 11/14 - 11/20
0.0%
7 weeks: 11/21 - 11/27
0.0%
8 weeks: 11/28 - 12/04
0.0%
9 weeks: 12/05 - 12/11
0.0%
10 weeks: 12/12 - 12/18
0.3%Other

Following McCarthy's ousting on October 3rd, the house is now paralyzed and without a speaker. How long will it be until a new speaker is elected?

I've started the counter from the day that McCarthy was ousted. This means that October 3rd is the first day the house was without a speaker, October 4th is the second day without a speaker, ..., October 9th is the 7th day without a speaker, and so on.

If they elect someone on the 10/09 then a full week hasn't passed, so it would be 0 weeks. If they elect someone on 10/10, then a full week has passed, and so it would be 1 week.

I hope that's not too confusing.

As time goes on and Other becomes more popular, I will split out new weeks. I will also extend the closing time as necessary until a new house speaker is elected.

Update 2023-10-19:

People have asked what will happen if the house expands the powers of the speaker pro tempore. I will apply the same criteria as in this market: https://manifold.markets/SimonGrayson/who-will-be-the-next-speaker-of-the-0b49bf53ad12?r=enpsaw

That is to say, until a speaker is elected the usual way, this market will not resolve.

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Does Manifold support the early resolution of certain categories? I'm curious about the system, not urging anything.

@RickMcCoy For this market type the answer is no currently. Maybe one day they will add something, it would be nice.

Just after I created this question manifold added the ability to create "unlinked" multi choice questions. You can early resolve those. If that market type was available then I would have chosen it.

@zzlk Thanks, that answers my question. It's interesting to see Manifold's system developing dynamically.

@RickMcCoy relevant market

I've added weeks 7, 8, 9 and 10.

Added a 6 weeks option

What's the reasoning for a drastic change within this week? Other than a new candidate that Rs miraculously agreed on, there's no way a new speaker will be elected before 10/24.

@RickMcCoy I just think that 35% is too large a percentage for this event.

@RickMcCoy It’s down to 22% now, so other people agree with you!

I think part of it is that it’s just so crazy to go another week without a Speaker that there’s got to be some chance they’ll get their shit together.

Also, this is in the context of the market saying 65% a couple of days ago and more like 90% for 1 week and 2 weeks put together around the time Scalise was being nominated. So 20% to 30% reflects a total collapse!

@SimonGrayson Huh, @jack singlehandedly collapsed the probability. Thanks, Jack!

bought Ṁ10 of Other YES

People are saying that speaker pro tempore might be given more powers so the house might continue its business. If that happens, we may not have a new speaker until the next congress.

@DylanSlagh looks like I'll be making a lot of week options then.

bought Ṁ10 of 5 weeks: 11/07 - 11/13 YES

Can you clarify how this resolves if a new Speaker is not elected, but instead installed by virtue of being the winner of a series of wrestling tournaments set up by Gym Jordan?

Can you clarify how this market will resolve if the speaker pro tempore is given more power and a new speaker is not chosen?

Other is starting to get popular so I think I might split out another week from it soon.

@zzlk added the 5 weeks option

What I would do as a GOP HR, recruiting 4 others: "If we hear one R vote for someone other than Scaliese, we're voting for Jeffries. We are 100% serious. If you're not a team player, then I'm not a team player."

@FrederickNorris I think the problem is that the extremists and weirdos would call your bluff and be fine with that. They'd love a dysfunctional house which can't pass any of the legislation that Jefrries brings to the floor and the likes of Matt Gaetz would love to send out fundraising Emails saying, "look at all of these RINOs voting with the Democrats, I'm the only real MAGA guy, please send me lots of money".

The "cut the bullshit" Republicans are the ones who wouldn't want Jeffries as Speaker!

@FrederickNorris also, their behind-closed-doors votes shouldn't ask "who's your top choice", but "who would you vote yes for on the floor" (approval voting) with a long list of names. Tally that up and nominate anyone over 217.

But either strategy requires a je ne sais quoi I'm not sure they have.

@robm Your doubts seem very justified.

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