Update 2025-05-14 (PST) (AI summary of creator comment): Vehicles belonging to local police departments that are escorting the motorcade will not be considered part of Trump's official motorcade.
Update 2025-05-14 (PST) (AI summary of creator comment): For Teslas to be counted, Trump must have personally included them in his motorcade.
Update 2025-05-15 (PST) (AI summary of creator comment): The creator has indicated that resolution criteria, including terms like 'Trump's official motorcade' and 'personally included', will be interpreted based on a colloquial/layman understanding.
Update 2025-05-15 (PST) (AI summary of creator comment): The creator has cited Wikipedia as a reference for applying the colloquial/layman interpretation of what constitutes a motorcade. This reference distinguishes police presence (e.g., vehicles driving ahead to clear the way) from the main motorcade. This supports the existing criterion that vehicles belonging to local police departments escorting the motorcade will not be considered part of Trump's official motorcade.
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I see your point @strutheo but think the police presence is part of the motorcade, not separate from it. By way of definition, here’s a quote from a spokesperson for the secret service:
"While precise alignments and numbers cannot be divulged, most motorcades include, at a minimum, a vehicle for the protectee, vehicles for security personnel, and vehicles for local or state law enforcement support."
I also would not have anticipated when creating (or betting) in this market that the host country would be the source of Teslas, but there are indeed multiple Teslas leading that motorcade in Doha. They have flashing lights on them, but how do we know that is local PD and not just Doha being flashy or what the difference is?
To say that it had to have been a choice of the Trump administration seems arbitrary. How would you know that? Or whether Trump was consulted about what the host country provided, and how? Are we certain Doha regularly use Teslas for policing?
That said, I’m fine with your decision to keep the market open, to resolve at future time when the evidence of Tesla inclusion is clearer. If this Tesla that was randomly part of a motorcade had been two, should that have counted? If anything that seemed like a more arbitrary inclusion, not less.
Perhaps you’d want to stipulate some criteria that can be verified, though given the secrecy around motorcade operations traditionally and the Trump administration’s determination to break convention I don’t know what to suggest!
It has happened in Doha. Trump motorcade with cybertrucks
https://x.com/telegraph/status/1922623802132820357?s=46&t=f-bNB2yoSVy4zrXsbxx_RA
@brianwang idk if im counting this because that is the local pd not the motorcade, despite what the tweet says
every time the motorcade travels they have local cars escort them, but they arent a part of trump's official motorcade
@strutheo
the market was about if trump was going to personally include them in his motorcade
That is how I understood it.
@Teddy yes but people with understanding of the motorcades and how they work would say that this wasn't the case. This was an escort car from the local PD it was not IN the motorcades as a part of Trump's admin
@Teddy @strutheo The interpretation of personally included in the motorcade was not in any of description or wording until it got added yesterday.
When the title of this question is fed into AI.
Understanding the Key Terms
Motorcade: A motorcade is a procession of vehicles, typically organized for VIPs like presidents. It often includes a variety of vehicles—such as police cars, SUVs, the presidential limousine, ambulances, and press vans—for security, transportation, and support.
Multiple Teslas: "Multiple" means more than one. In this case, it refers to Tesla vehicles, specifically two Tesla Cybertrucks.
Led by a Police Department with Two Tesla Cybertrucks: This indicates that two Tesla Cybertrucks, operated by a police department, were at the front of the motorcade, guiding or escorting it.
Analyzing the Event
In the described event, a Trump motorcade was led by two Tesla Cybertrucks operated by a police department. Since these Cybertrucks were leading the motorcade, they were inherently part of the procession. A motorcade isn’t just the VIP’s vehicle; it encompasses all the vehicles traveling together for the purpose of the journey, including those for security and support. Therefore, the two Tesla Cybertrucks count as vehicles included in the motorcade.
The statement "will multiple Teslas be included in the Trump motorcade" asks whether more than one Tesla vehicle is part of the motorcade. With two Tesla Cybertrucks present, the criterion of "multiple" is satisfied. Thus, this event qualifies as having multiple Teslas included in the Trump motorcade.
ai doesnt convince me
but what i decide will be based on the colloquial/layman interpretation vs the intended meaning
@brianwang The creator comment came May 14 AFTER the qualifying procession occurred. It is like predicting some career scoring record and adding the playoff goals don't count after the record goals for regular season and playoff goals was set.
IF the Tesla cybertrucks were blown up by an assassination attempt. It would be said that Trump's motorcade was attacked.
Where is there any definition or reference where vehicles in the procession are differentiated as being part of the White House vehicles or not.
yup youre repeating what i said - its a difference in interpretation between the narrower definition vs colloquial definition
also wikipedia clearly says
> A police presence precedes the beginning of the presidential motorcade. These cars and motorcycles always drive ahead to clear the way and block traffic and also are in constant communication with the Secret Service.[
@strutheo I expected that justification would be found for moving the goalposts. Thus I sold out. But you moved the goalposts after the fact and manifold is not putting in rules to force clarity before hand and then allowing arbitrary rulings. There needs to be jump ball rules. Refunding and nullifying or splitting the pot where there is obvious ambiguity.
Finding another mod to agree is like finding one out of twelve jurors to agree. You can venue shop to get any answer you want.
@brianwang the goalposts never moved in my opinion, i think that is where the disconnect is?
i didnt ask them to agree with me, they read this market then said they agreed with the stance that it was not in the motorcade