Conditional on one of these people winning the US election, which will it be? [Trump/Biden/Newsom/RFK/Haley/Desantis]
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Donald Trump
0.9%
Joe Biden
0.0%
Gavin Newsom
0.0%
Nikki Haley
0.0%
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
0.0%
Ron DeSantis

Resolves on inauguration day [January 20th, 2025] to whoever gets inaugurated. However, if the winner is called by AP and the challenger(s) concede, that is sufficient to resolve this market.

If none of these six people is the winner of the US presidential election, this market will be cancelled and all trades reversed. It is not possible to add new options (Like Kamala Harris) to this market.

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@mods @ManifoldPolitics This should be resolved.

@squirrelfish Why tag the mods before pinging @getby ?
By the way, @Manifold / @Agh , I'm curious about the decision to have moderators frequently resolve markets before making any effort to get the market creators to resolve. It seems like a risky norm to set, since it's inevitable that at some point there will either be a controversial resolution by a mod or a mod will controversially decline to resolve a market. And it seems a bit contrary to the original spirit of Manifold, in which market creators were expected to be responsible for their markets and Manifold itself did not have to take responsibility for resolution fights. What's the benefit of doing it this way?

@placebo_username The market creator's account has been inactive for several months as far as I can tell.

How do my No bets on Trump work here if Kamala beats him?

@Raph the market will be N/A'ed if Kamala wins.

@benshindel Aww shucks

@benshindel that being said, I have no idea why you'd hold NO shares on Trump in this market unless you think RFK Jr. is going to win or something

69 days until the election.

bought Ṁ100 Donald Trump YES

How hard would it be to trick Trump into tweeting this out on Truth Social by making him think it's an unconditional market predicting that he has a 93% chance of victory?

Probably not hard at all.

Incentive for someone to try to do this:

Probably pretty hard.

bought Ṁ250 Joe Biden NO

Free (fake) money

Per a discussion in the mod channel, we're making this a conditional market so it's not in perpetual unlisted limbo.

bought Ṁ1,000 Donald Trump YES

So... does this N/A? I think it should. Alternatively, if biden drops out, it would shot up to ~100% trump lol

Maybe we can wait until the election and NA this if it's not one of the people listed?

I think it should NA regardless of whether it's one of the people listed. Otherwise it amounts to interpreting the question as "conditional that the winner is one of the people listed ...", which doesn't agree with how the question was written or how people would have interpreted their bets (e.g. I bet NO on Biden because the market prob for him felt too high, but his conditional prob wasn't) -- and it also screws up scoring for short-term bets (buy then sell off your position before it resolves).

I agree with Timothy Johnson. We should try not to N/A questions. Especially now with Biden 70% to win the nomination.

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Warning for new traders: This market lacks some probable options; notably, Kamala Harris. This means the market probability doesn't correctly correspond to the probabilities of each option winning the election. I recommend that you trade on other equivalent (but not broken) markets instead, such as this one:

I just unlisted this market. No sense having it appear in browse if it's "broken".

if he boosts it again will unlisted prevent it from being displayed? I think this gets views because of boosts

edit: seems like you can't boost unlisted questions! good!

Need to fix this market now that Kamala is an actual option, this is ridiculous

why does this market have 3k traders when there are so many better dupes lol

Arbitrage? That's why I'm here, anyway

bought Ṁ500 Joe Biden NO

hmmmmmmmmm pretty bad

you can't even arb because the probabilities are wrong because some options aren't present and if they happened this market might N/A or something which would be a bummer

why does this market have 3k traders when there are so many better dupes lol

Because the author pumped it full of an insane amount of subsidy + boost.

true, but I don't think we should wreck the title like that

I think it’s great

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