Will GPT-5 be released before 2025?
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Resolves YES if GPT-5 is publicly released before Jan 1, 2025; resolves NO otherwise.

Update from March 18: If the next OpenAI flagship model deviates from the GPT-N naming scheme and there will clearly be no future model named GPT-5 that is going to be released from OpenAI (e.g. they completely changed the trajectory of their naming scheme) then I will count it as "GPT-5" regardless.

However, if the next flagship model is not called GPT-5 but still conforms to the OpenAI GPT-N naming scheme (e.g. GPT-4.5) or it is implied that there will eventually be a model called GPT-5 that will be released (i.e. they are going to continue with the same naming scheme) then I will not count it as "GPT-5".

Additional update from Manifold staff before sweepifying:
Publicly released includes if it is behind their subscription or a roll-out where some people have access and some are still waiting. If it's publicly released but only for API access this will still resolve YES. Dates for this market are in PST.

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@TimothyJohnson5c16 Orion is the codename for their next-gen model series. Each model in that series has a different codename. Same thing with strawberry: https://x.com/polynoamial/status/1834280155730043108

So, yes, no model code-named "Orion" will release this year (or next year)…

@majorj A company spokesman is probably not going to play those kind of gotcha games with code words ("Oh, we didn't release Orion, we just released the first model in the Orion series, called Fergblop, you should have been more precise in your question!") , because they would lose credibility with the reporter and it's one-on-one, so the social convention is that you are trying to communicate an understanding.

This is more important to a spokesman than to a CEO, who can play those kinds of games since they are speaking directly to the public, and the social assumption is that they are choosing their words very specifically.

The Verge really has become a dumpster fire of journalism over the past few years: https://www.theverge.com/2024/10/25/24279600/google-next-gemini-ai-model-openai-december

free mana opportunity if you don't expect any major advancements for the rest of the year https://manifold.markets/WieDan/will-ais-stay-below-1453-elo-in-202

For real though, no smoke without fire

@JaundicedBaboon "Instead, OpenAI is planning to grant access first to companies it works closely with in order for them to build their own products and features, according to a source familiar with the plan."

I don't think that would count as a public release.

@TimothyJohnson5c16 per the description, "Publicly released includes if it is behind their subscription or a roll-out where some people have access and some are still waiting. If it's publicly released but only for API access this will still resolve YES"

Shouldn’t this kind of resolve as Sam A. Recently revealed that they considered naming O1 as GPT-5?

bought Ṁ200 YES from 20% to 22%

@MatthewBaggins I think this is the source: https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1g5ower/sam_altman_revealed_that_even_though_it_didnt_fit/

I think regardless of whether he considered naming it GPT5, he didn't, so that shouldn't count.

bought Ṁ50 NO at 21%
bought Ṁ700 NO

Yeah it's very clear that this isn't gpt-5 and they only briefly considered it in order to simplify things.

The case for yes that this clip helps is if gpt-5 doesn't exist. I don't think they'll be declaring the GPT series dead this year though.

https://x.com/GaryMarcus/status/1847286782771224684

Gary Marcus:
> My opinion: If OpenAI doesn’t deliver GPT-5 by end of 2025, they are in real trouble.

bought Ṁ50 NO at 12%

@YonatanCale Man, Gary Marcus is such a hater! What has he contributed to AI development? Over the current AI boom of the last few years, what has he done?

@gallerdude Made correct predictions.

@TiredCliche has he? Not really!

@gallerdude I wouldn't give Gary's tweet much more or much less weight if it came from someone who contributed much much more to AI lately. What am I missing?

Made this eligible for sweepstakes with S1,000 liquidity!

opened a Ṁ750 NO at 20% order

GPT-4o hasn't even been released (simultaneous image and voice input and image output aren't supported) and some of y'all think GPT-5 will be released before the end of 2024, with Greg Brockman away from OpenAI

If you want a capabilities-based market. Note that o1-preview is now at a 75% win rate against the last gpt-4, gpt-4o has a 71% win rate against it, so this is very much realistic within 9 months.

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