Background: Nord Stream Pipeline 'Sabotage' Sets Up New Crisis Between NATO and Russia
I will resolve this market once there is definitive evidence of the nation, organization, or individual responsible for the attack, according to my own personal judgment. Official statements by the US or Russia alleging that they did or did not carry out the attack will not count if not backed by hard evidence.
"The Journal spoke to four senior Ukrainian defense and security officials who either participated in or had direct knowledge of the plot. All of them said the pipelines were a legitimate target in Ukraine’s war of defense against Russia.
Portions of their account were corroborated by a nearly two-year German police investigation into the attack, which has obtained evidence including email, mobile and satellite phones communications, as well as fingerprints and DNA samples from the alleged sabotage team. The Germany inquiry hasn’t directly linked President Zelensky to the clandestine operation."
@Akzzz123 Can a Ukrainian official against the Ukrainian president be considered "NATO-aligned"? Then sure, I guess he can be seen as "anti-Russian"
Not sure. It's what they've used in their article.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/11/11/nordstream-bombing-ukraine-chervinsky/
@mariopasquato to be clear, I'm not suggesting it is (P<5%), it just has that vibe to it IMO
Seymour Hersh says the US did it. https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/how-america-took-out-the-nord-stream
Hmm skimming the article it seems it is all based on one anonymous source? Or is there some other evidence?
Seems Hersch has done great investigative work but has received criticism for
His stories, often alleging vast and shadowy conspiracies, have made startling — and often internally inconsistent — accusations, based on little or no proof beyond a handful of anonymous "officials"
@Nostradamnedus France engaged in terrorism in New Zealand https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinking_of_the_Rainbow_Warrior
@SG This is a guy who also thinks Covid came from a US biolab: https://www.politico.eu/article/josep-borrell-jeffrey-sachs-adviser-china-disinformation-us-covid-origin/
@Nostradamnedus Sachs is saying COVID came from the Wuhan lab (plausible), which received U.S. funding (true).
@JosiahNeeley Source? No mention of Wuhan here: https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/474399/Covid-possibly-came-out-of-a-U-S-biotechnology-lab-says-Columbia