FOLDED, 1st Alliance: Will this market have 7 or fewer unique viewers and stay secret for 7 days?
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resolved Jul 27
Resolved
NO

This market is for the first formal alliance between FOLDED contestants. Discussion on what we want to do can be done in the comments.

@Quroe shall check the unique viewer count of this market at least once daily. If it ever reaches 8 or more unique viewers before resolution, this market resolves NO. Otherwise, it resolves YES.

If I see a leaked screenshot of this market accessible to or from a non-alliance member, this market resolves NO.

There may be a moment between the market closing and checking the count one last time before resolution due to requiring human verification. This market is unlisted.


0) This alliance shall not exceed 50% of the player pool upon creation.

1) Non-aggression towards each member unless they consent. If aggression towards each other is necessary, we discuss a plan on how to execute it.

2) Information shared within the alliance shall not be shared with outsiders. Especially Bandors.

3) 121 cannot join this alliance.

4) No entry fee to join the alliance.

5) Alliance members shall not be forced to drop out from FOLDED without their consent.

6) Initially, all members of the alliance are secret to outsiders. We may discuss if we want to repeal this.

 

General, unenforceable requests:

  • Knowledge sharing on exploits.

  • Quroe would like to discuss the avenue of shrinking the alliance if the membership exceeds 50% of the remaining players, but this is not a make-or-break request. (I am not sure it would remain stable if it is >50%. I suspect secret cliques would form on their own if we don’t enforce this rule. This is just to keep things open and honest.)

These items can all be negotiated.

 

Members:

@Quroe

@retr0id

@koadma

@Wott

@nikki

@100Anonymous

@evan

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As of this moment, I currently know 4 people have seen this market. I also know that it has to be me, Retr0id, Adorján, and Anonymous due to you all commenting.

Ignore, the information updated when I refreshed the page

@Quroe nikki commented as well

There is a snitch among us. Resolving No momentarily.

@Quroe It's likely moderators can view unlisted markets (because they should check those for profit manipulation tactics too) and in that case it's possible they are also counted for the unique viewers

@koadma I have some other unlisted markets in my pocket for Nash PIt Episode 2 set up and waiting to be discovered once I set up the "capture the flag" starting point for everybody to discover. So far, I am still the only unique viewer on them.

@Quroe good to know, then snitch is more likely, but I don't see why someone would do that this soon

@koadma I solemnly swear it wasn't me. I was looking forward to the camaraderie.

@koadma

It's likely moderators can view unlisted markets

At some point, I would like to discover if this is true.

@Quroe I promise it wasn't me either. Another idea: if you view your unlisted nash pit markets from an incognito window does the counter move up?

@koadma I don't want to mess with that on my unlisted markets, but when I test that with one of my other public markets, I don't see the counter increment. I then tried turning on a VPN, and it still doesn't increment. That being said, I reserve the right to be wrong if there is a delay in the counter ticking up.

@Quroe okay, then i don't see anything else it could be other than a snitch. I hope after the game ends they will tell us

@Quroe It's likely moderators can view unlisted markets
@bagelfan might be interested

@Quroe fwiw I am not too bothered by the view count (aside from losing M50), it doesn't make me want to abandon the alliance.

Although I would like to know whether moderators can snoop, we should probably use another discussion venue if that's the case.

@retr0id It might be worthwhile to have somebody other than me leading such a charge. Maybe my approach with everything being so formal isn't the best way to do it.

I am convinced to work with practically everybody who has commented in here so far, and BenS has a reputation of enjoying cooperative systems, and I'd also like to work with him too.

Basic tip for the dragon (and for games with asymmetric boss-player dmg):

First, take care of defense: move the character to a place/trajectory where you know it won't get hit in the next few moments. Only then should you look for ways to attack (in this case for the "Shoot" buton).

@koadma Easier option on how to hit the boss easier in future fights: jump once and press shoot, then keep jumping. It will automatically shoot fireballs while you dodge the skulls etc.

@koadma does it still take damage while off-screen?

@Wott I don't know unfortunately, I always kill it too quickly to analyze it much.

Captcha bypass method:

First, find the text. In firefox this can be achieved via F12 -> Debugger -> Search. Then type in a fragment of the text (note that the search is case-sensitive by default, click the Aa icon to turn that off). Click the search result and you should see the string in the source code.

Then, select the full string (shift-click is useful here), and drag-and-drop it into the captcha input box.

@retr0id Interesting! Is there an analogous approach in Chrome?

@Quroe F12 -> Sources -> Ctrl+Shift+F

@retr0id (not tested the rest but that's how you search for stuff, Ctrl+Shift+F also works in ff from the Debugger tab)

I have solved the bruntwork of this day's challenge and got to the check in button. I'll happily wait to vote for a consensus decision. Who do we want to give it to?

Do we want to update the market to 8 unique viewers and allow BenS in? This would break my 50% cap, but I am not a king and will concede the point if you all want me to.

bought Ṁ1 YES

@Quroe yes

@nikki If I hear 2 more yesses, the yesses have it. (I wish to let Ben in too.)

@Quroe yes from me also

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