What is worse than committing a financial crime?

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Conducting widespread or systematic rape and sexual violence as a weapon of war

98.7%

Deliberately targeting civilians and civilian objects during armed conflicts

98.5%

Attempting or successfully couping a Democratically elected leader for personal gain

98.4%

Denying health insurance claims from impoverished family for flimsy reasons

98.4%

Moving hundreds of thousands of children to a foreign country and forcibly "reeducating" them

98%

Touching minors/ being a pedophile

96%

Gender "reparative therapy" of minors

94%

Stealing Nicholas Cage

92%

Quackery: traveling town to town selling snake-oil remedies while carrying a duck

92%

Invading the UK, making it a US territory, and naming it East Long Island.

91%

Killing the United Healthcare CEO

88%

Judging policies by their stated intent, not by their effect

80%

Going back in time and smothering baby Hitler, but also, via butterfly effect, undoing everyone born later (assume single timeline, no multiverse)

80%

Stealing the Declaration of Independence

76%

Quackery - Traveling town to town selling snake oil remedies in a horse drawn carriage while wearing a top hat

75%

Dueling - settling a dispute in the 21st century America with pistols at dawn

75%

De-extinction for your delectation: Bringing an extinct species back just to make it extinct again by serving it to gourmet diners as the highlight of an expensive meal.

60%

Knowing of two imminent financial crimes, being able to stop them with negligible effort and no risk to yourself, and not doing so

60%

Sending dick pics to a student enrolled in your MOOC

59%

Signing Deshaun Watson (who previously had to settle millions of dollars in sexual assault cases) to a 5 year, 230 Million fully guaranteed contract

The spirit of this market is - someone did something that is worse than committing a financial crime. What could that be?

Examples of financial crimes: Fraud, embezzlement, money laundering, bribes, tax evasion, counterfeiting, insider trading, etc.

The severity of financial crimes can vary and you should use your own judgement when voting/placing your bets.

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bought Ṁ1 YES

@skibidist This is honestly on the level of sodomy. Sad how much degeneracy permeates our modern culture

bought Ṁ1 YES

@skibidist Funny how pedophilia is on the list twice, but because of political correctness the second mention is only at 18%

@stardust conservatives imagine communicating with a child without sexual intent challenge 2025

@ijk1 I thoroughly reject the accusation of being a "conservative", I am a monarchist!

Transing kids is necessarily pedophilic in nature because there is no such thing as a trans kid. If you reject the absurd claim that "trans women are women and trans men are men" as I do, what follows is essentially adults who are mutilating children. It doesn't have to be done with sexual intent to be pedophilia.

@stardust I will just let your word salad sit out there for your readers to appreciate. If you want to redefine words like "pedophilia" and "mutilate" to make your weird ideological fictions sound plausible, you're going to have to work harder than that.

People bidding no on suicide are inhuman. It impacts everyone around the person who did it, many of whom end up blaming themselves. The loss of human life alone is an immense tragedy. Weird to consider financial crime worse.

opened a Ṁ200 NO at 20% order

@skibidist I am interpreting this to refer to what it usually refers to, which is:

When a child, of their own volition, makes it clear that their gender identity is not what is assigned
adults support their social transition and
support their transition medically with puberty blockers if the child wants it and it is medically appropriate.

@BrunoJ I think his book had a Fermatting problem.

What's goin on here?

@Riley12

sold Ṁ9 YES

Kinda surprised stealing the declaration of independence has such high odds when the trader balance is pretty much 50-50

sold Ṁ173 NO

This is sitting at Yes, which implies a restaurant that serves beef is worse than a vegetarian restaurant that is used for money laundering.

@yetforever unironically yes

bought Ṁ25 YES

@TheAllMemeingEye I'd argue that anyone who's even a tiny bit consequentialist should vote YES here given the number of accidents this would cause

bought Ṁ10 NO

@Mich It doesn't need to be simultaneous, let's say that it's timed to not have any knock-on effects

@TrickyDuck

“I know these views aren't popular, but I have never courted popularity.” - John Cleese

@TrickyDuck is this a reference to something in particular?

@TheAllMemeingEye Monty Python.

bought Ṁ2 NO

@TrickyDuck the end result is identical to committing financial crimes right?

@TheAllMemeingEye It ends up being multiple financial crimes, so you have to ask yourself, “Is that worse than committing a financial crime?”

@TrickyDuck Glad to see that someone was okay with cannibalism.

bought Ṁ20 NO

I feel like regardless of how bad wasting money on un-extincting a species just to make it extinct is, you're not actually harming someone, versus stealing money.

@Qoiuoiuoiu hot take: torturing and killing animals is bad actually

@TheAllMemeingEye No I agree but so is stealing money from innocent people

@Qoiuoiuoiu you have a point, but I think you also need to commit a financial crime to fund the resurrection project so it's double bad 😂

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