Who else will leave OpenAI in the next week (period ending Friday Nov 24th)?
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No one

According to Kara Swisher "There are about to be a lot more major departures of top folks at OpenAI tonight". Sam Altman and Greg Brockman are already out.

Please only add public figures to this market, and respect the privacy of civilian OpenAI employees.

EDIT 11/29 10:38 am (PT): I am reopening this market to let people continue to trade. This market will still resolve based on who left OpenAI before Friday Nov 24th, 5:32 pm (PT). People who left after this time will resolve as not having left. People who left and then rejoined before this time will resolve as having left.

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William Eden

@DanielFilan Yeah seems like no one left, and the board didn’t change until today? I’d mark Yes on “no one” and everything else No?

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Daniel Filan

@WilliamEden why do you think the board didn't change until today?

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William Eden

@DanielFilan The last thing we heard was an agreement “in principle” which means not signed and the small details not worked out yet, until this formal statement today from Altman as CEO, announcing the board changes. I’ve been in these kinds of discussions and I doubt they hammered it out over Thanksgiving, signed it, and then failed to announce for a whole weekend and a couple more days. I think the burden of proof is on paperwork having been signed substantially before any announcement

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Peter Barnett

@DanielFilan Helen Toner said on twitter that she officially left today: https://twitter.com/hlntnr/status/1730034017435586920
"Today, I officially resigned from the OpenAI board.
Thank you to the many friends, colleagues, and supporters who have said publicly & privately that they know our decisions have always been driven by our commitment to OpenAI’s mission."

WilliamEden avatar
William Eden

@PeterBarnett This does seem definitive - what are you waiting for on resolution now?

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Peter Barnett

This market has reopened to allow people to trade based on rumors/news/etc. It still resolves based on the original time period (see description).

EvanDaniel avatar
Evan

Is this ready to resolve? If it is not resolving while we wait for more info, should it remain open so folks can continue trading the rumors / news / etc.? (If reopening it, I would suggest adding the end date for the period in question to the title.)

PeterBarnett avatar
Peter Barnett

@EvanDaniel Thanks, yeah I don't feel fully ready to resolve this, was hoping we'd have learned the answer yesterday. The main uncertainty is if the board members Helen Toner and Tasha McCauley left OpenAI before Friday Nov 24th, 5:32 pm (PT).
I'll reopen the market, and edit the title and description.

ChrisLeong avatar
Chris Leong

I'm confused. I thought Tasha and Helen were off the board. Or does that take more time to confirm?

firstuserhere avatar
firstuserhere

@ChrisLeong When Greg Brockman stepped down as the chair of the board, he did not leave OpenAI. Neither has Ilya.

So, they (Tasha and Helen) may be off the board, but do you know if they're still employees of OpenAI?

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Chris Leong

@firstuserhere I'm sure they are.

I was talking about Tasha and Helen who aren't separately employees.

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firstuserhere

@ChrisLeong Yeah, they appear to have been separate:

OpenAI’s board of directors consists of OpenAI chief scientist Ilya Sutskever, independent directors Quora CEO Adam D’Angelo, technology entrepreneur Tasha McCauley, and Georgetown Center for Security and Emerging Technology’s Helen Toner.

In that case, i'm also confused about the pricing of the market. I could correct it myself, but now I feel like I'm missing something - clearly two people on the board who weren't employees of OpenAI leaving the board implies that they've left OpenAI. Unless we find that they've been given some other job at OpenAI, which seems very very unlikely!

firstuserhere avatar
firstuserhere

@firstuserhere OK Got it. So, they've been removed from the old board and there's been a new board announced with a few initial members. It's still possible (Though unlikely) that the new board also has these two as board members.

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@firstuserhere This market closes soon and I'm not sure the old board has actually been replaced yet. "agreement in principle" etc. That's why these probabilities are so close to 50% so close to ending: It's uncertainty about whether it's already happened or whether the paperwork still needs to be signed.

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firstuserhere

@Mira Yes, and add to that the fact that only Friday is left to sort out this stuff.

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Is Noone the name of a person idk about, or a typo for No one?

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Sinclair Chen

@TheBayesian i have unilaterally fixed the typo

RobBensinger avatar
Rob Bensinger

Only 4% probability on it taking more than 63 hours for the board swap to be finalized, on Thanksgiving weekend?

Seems, uh, low.

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@notarealuser Odd. Rune should know Ilya better than that.