Which of these potentially world-changing discoveries will happen first?
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2030
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AGI
9%
Fusion energy
0.9%
Room-temperature ambient-pressure superconductor
5%
Cure for cancer
12%
High-fidelity brain-computer interface
0.1%
FTL travel
7%
Extraterrestrial life
0.4%
Universal virus vaccine
4%
Full-brain emulation
25%
Nanotechnology
24%
Good vegan cheese

Resolves to my judgement. Happy April Fool's but this is a very serious market. Nothing melts like real cheese melts.

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@NcyRocks I've reconsidered. Cheese is defined by its dairy content--milk proteins and fats. Without these, the product isn't cheese the same way meat isn't chocolate. This option NAs.

@GazDownright You seem to be misunderstanding this market on multiple levels:

  • For a start, this is a dependent multiple choice market, so individual options can’t N/A. It’s possible in theory for them to resolve NO before the whole market resolves, but Manifold doesn’t currently support that.

  • In case it’s not clear, this is a tongue-in-cheek April Fool’s Day market. It’s mainly a joke about how difficult it seems to be to make good vegan cheese. I’d never otherwise posit vegan cheese as a “potentially world-changing discovery”.

  • If I may be frank, this is my market, not yours. I think it’s reasonable to refer to vegan alternatives to cheese as “vegan cheese”.

@NcyRocks I attempted some humor.

@NcyRocks Sorry to waste your time!

@GazDownright Not your fault at all 😅

Does convincing you vegan cheese is inherently better (health, environment, ethics, etc.) than real cheese suffice?

I'm afraid not. I'm already vegan and convinced that vegan cheese is better along certain dimensions like the ones you mentioned, but not along dimensions like taste or texture. Even if it's 'better', it still sucks.

@NcyRocks Which brands have you tried so far? There's a reasonable chance it already exists but you haven't tried it yet

The main one I've tried is a New Zealand brand called Angel Food.

Does Vemondo exist in New Zealand? That's the main one I've tried and like

I recommend going to Tart Bakery in Grey Lynn and talking to them about cheese while eating everything. surely if anyone can give advice on this it's them.

bought Ṁ10 YES

Betting yes on this out of hopium

bought Ṁ20 NO

I know that having this in my portfolio is a losing endeavor given Manifold's obsession with it. But lol, this is not in any sense the most likely.

Yeah, that was one of the least thought-out options. I had in mind something more like more general manufacturing on a nano scale.

(Apologies for making these so vague, but I did say "resolves to my judgement" on April Fool's Day!)

@NcyRocks we've had computer chips transistors at the nm scale for years now - currently 3-7nm - been mass produced in millions

@GazDownright You realize you're betting against good vegan cheese right?!

@DavidFWatson There's nothing like real cheese. I trust @NcyRocks' tastebuds 👊

opened a Ṁ40 YES at 15% order

Have you considered how much bad vegan cheese you might have to eat for this market?

Hey, I have to eat it anyway. May as well try to find out when it'll stop sucking quite so much.

a cure for any one type of cancer counts?

I had in mind a cure for every type of cancer. I remembered an SMBC comic saying "'a cure for cancer' is like 'a cure for virus'" and I thought "that's a good idea, I'll add that to the list too". But a cure for a sufficiently large amount of them might suffice.

Sorry to be a pain, but... how high a fidelity? We already have brain-computer interfaces that are used to control robotic arms, I believe there are even ones used to give blind people sight.

@DavidFWatson Normalize asking for further specification. No pain, no gain.

@NcyRocks any update?

Only four months late! To be honest, I'm not sure. Just higher than current.

(And I agree with Gaz; don't apologise for asking for clarification!)

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