What is worse than committing a financial crime?

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95%

Denying health insurance claims from impoverished family for flimsy reasons

74%

Judging policies by their stated intent, not by their effect

67%

Killing yourself

63%

Quackery: traveling town to town selling snake-oil remedies while carrying a duck

57%

Quackery - Traveling town to town selling snake oil remedies in a horse drawn carriage while wearing a top hat

55%

Dueling - settling a dispute in the 21st century America with pistols at dawn

51%

De-extinction for your delectation: Bringing an extinct species back just to make it extinct again by serving it to gourmet diners as the highlight of an expensive meal.

48%

Stealing the Declaration of Independence

32%

Hiring the one from the more successful demographic out of two identical resumes, because of regression to the mean / biased college admissions

31%

BTE Ban evading

26%

Killing the United Healthcare CEO

23%

Founding Christianity

Purchasing 500 pounds of beef

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YES

Genocide

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YES

Murder

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YES

Sexual assault

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YES

Rape

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YES

Committing war crime.

Resolved

YES

Creating Hell, making it possible that humans suffer infinitely for the actions of their finite life

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YES

Murdering 5,000 people by feeding them to all animals of the sea, including aquaman, mermaids, octopuses, and sea horses.

The spirit of this market is - someone did something that is worse than committing a financial crime. What could that be?

Examples of financial crimes: Fraud, embezzlement, money laundering, bribes, tax evasion, counterfeiting, insider trading, etc.

The severity of financial crimes can vary and you should use your own judgement when voting/placing your bets.

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@Riley12

sold Ṁ9 YES

Kinda surprised stealing the declaration of independence has such high odds when the trader balance is pretty much 50-50

sold Ṁ173 NO

This is sitting at Yes, which implies a restaurant that serves beef is worse than a vegetarian restaurant that is used for money laundering.

@yetforever unironically yes

bought Ṁ25 YES

@TheAllMemeingEye I'd argue that anyone who's even a tiny bit consequentialist should vote YES here given the number of accidents this would cause

bought Ṁ10 NO

@Mich It doesn't need to be simultaneous, let's say that it's timed to not have any knock-on effects

@TrickyDuck

“I know these views aren't popular, but I have never courted popularity.” - John Cleese

@TrickyDuck is this a reference to something in particular?

@TheAllMemeingEye Monty Python.

bought Ṁ2 NO

@TrickyDuck the end result is identical to committing financial crimes right?

@TheAllMemeingEye It ends up being multiple financial crimes, so you have to ask yourself, “Is that worse than committing a financial crime?”

@TrickyDuck Glad to see that someone was okay with cannibalism.

bought Ṁ20 NO

I feel like regardless of how bad wasting money on un-extincting a species just to make it extinct is, you're not actually harming someone, versus stealing money.

@Qoiuoiuoiu hot take: torturing and killing animals is bad actually

@TheAllMemeingEye No I agree but so is stealing money from innocent people

@Qoiuoiuoiu you have a point, but I think you also need to commit a financial crime to fund the resurrection project so it's double bad 😂

opened a Ṁ40 NO at 60% order

@Choms I'm inclined to say no on this one, imo you can always fire the negligent guy if the consequence wasn't too bad

@Slackhammer I like that this is doubly wrong! 😄

@Slackhammer This is a financial crime.

Context: https://youtu.be/ORpAADwU2UI

@OP Therefore it isn't worse than a financial crime, right? Also, is going to prison really a downgrade if you're already a homeless beggar?

@TheAllMemeingEye Depends on the prison and who you're locked up with and if'n you got purrrdy lips.

@Slackhammer Excuse me, "with whom" 🥴

bought Ṁ1 YES

friends, I put it to you that cheating sick people is actually bad

@ijk1 Agreed

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