@mods @JeffBerman Protestor shot and killed in Utah during No Kings protest.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/15/us/politics/no-kings-protest-shooting-salt-lake-city.html?unlocked_article_code=1.PU8.qaUx.hZcNo-GZscKy&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

@HWH I am convinced this is a trigger event for a YES resolution, but I have no authority here.

@JeffBerman My plain reading of the title and description seems to indicate that self-immolation would count. Am I reading that right?

@Quroe

Not something I had thought about, but if it’s related to protesting Trump, and someone dies, then that would resolve YES.

@JeffBerman Do you require the event to be in the United States? Or just in "the streets"?

@Quroe

Another excellent question I hadn’t considered. If the protest is clearly over Trump, then I suppose we’d have to include it. I’m open to discussion on whether we should include a death outside the United States.

On the subject of self-immolation, I'll leave this here for everybody's future reference.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_self-immolations?wprov=sfla1

@JeffBerman Just to confirm, do deaths in 2025 but before market creation count?

@Quroe That’s an interesting question. You’re asking if a death that preceded the market creation ends up attributed to a Trump protest? Because I’m not aware of any.

@JeffBerman There was a self immolation on the 20th of January in that Wikipedia link. It was added recently.

While there is a vigil planned for them, I don't think that it guarantees a they're not alive.

It began during the inauguration ceremony of Trump during a BLM protest on MLK day. We don't have absolute confirmation it was necessarily about Trump, but there appears to be manifesto(s)/letter(s) that have not been released to the public yet (and I haven't seen them yet either).

All that is to say that more information could come to light. I would probably make a case for you that it would count for a YES if the letters explicitly call out Trump and if you count pre-market deaths.

https://lookout.co/this-was-a-message-friends-say-activists-self-immolation-was-an-act-of-protest-plan-sunday-vigil-at-city-hall/

‘This was a message’: Friends say activist’s self-immolation was an act of protest; plan Sunday vigil at city hall

Some friends of civil rights activist Thairie Ritchie say his decision to light himself on fire on Martin Luther King Jr. Day was an act of public protest. They say they want to bring attention to his message and are organizing a Sunday vigil in his honor at Santa Cruz City Hall.

@Quroe That’s an interesting question. That assumes a death prior to the market creation is later attributed to a Trump protest. Do you have an example?

@JeffBerman As of this instant, no. But I'm building this case, as seen in my previous comment.

It's also worth asking: if the group protest isn't necessarily about Trump, but if the person who died does state that they are protesting Trump, does it count?

I will admit I'm starting to get into Ship of Theseus territory.

@Quroe If we have definitive evidence the death resulted from a street protest against Trump, that would satisfy the question. We need the receipts.