See here for context on "double it and pass it on": https://manifold.markets/Quroe/how-many-manifolders-will-double-it-d9q609ZP6R#pdso5l59f7#
See here for context on combinatorial futarchy: https://manifold.markets/post/futarchy-would-be-better-with-combi
I have to send 1024 Mana to someone in the next 48 hours, they then have to double it and pass it on. I want to choose someone who is predicted to double it, so who should it be?
The candidates were selected partially based on volunteering, and partially by my own choice based on what might be fun.
This market makes predictions over all combinations over who I send the mana to, and whether or not they'll pass it on. One option will resolve YES, the rest NO. I will choose whoever has the highest conditional probability of sending on the mana, i.e. the highest:
P(A is sent the mana and they pass it on) / (P(A is sent the mana and they pass it on) + P(A is sent the mana and they don't pass it on))
I received the payment at 14:28 (GMT+1) on October 7th, I aim to send the mana shortly after 12:00 (GMT+1) on October 9th, when this market will close. I will choose the person who had the highest time-weighted average conditional probability of passing it on over the preceding hour to make my decision, in order to avoid last minute manipulation.
P.S. Enjoy arbitrarging this market with the related other ones: https://manifold.markets/news/double-it-ep-2, derivative markets encouraged.
Update 2025-10-07 (PST) (AI summary of creator comment): - If I do not send the mana to anyone (due to error or deliberate defection), the option representing no one is sent the mana (e.g., "Nobody") will resolve YES rather than N/A.
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@traders here's why I would be a good person to send the mana to next:
I have a history of taking and repaying loans on time (and therefore have demonstrated that I'm willing to pass up "free mana" in favour of maintaining social contracts that I've promised to abide)
I have easily enough balance pay it forward
I care rather little about my mana
I would love the opportunity to contribute to seeing how far we can make this go
And perhaps above all else, I would not dare bring shame upon my family
Also FWIW I'd come up with the following rough plan for if the futatchy market @Jasonb created used independent answers asking if X would pass it on (with Jason sending it to whoever's highest and N/Aing everyone else):
@traders, here's the deal, I'm gonna keep sinking mana into YES to attempt to ensure that I become the next recipient
If I succeed, I will either double it and pass it on, or keep the mana, based on whichever is the more profitable (with an unknown bias towards passing it on)
Specifically, I'll double it if the following is true:
Profit if my answer resolved YES - cost to double it + some bias > mana received + whatever I would get from selling all my YES shares
Although, if someone were to put a finger on the scale to determine what's profitable by pledging to send me some mana, I could be open to such things
(If anyone pledges to send me mana to incentivise passing it on or not, create a market asking whether they'll follow through (and N/A if I don't resolve the way they wanted), and state that I'll multiply their stated gift by the probability the market thinks they'll follow through, and add that to the relevant side of the equation) - or something?
As a result, you buying NO makes it more profitable for me to buy YES and therefore to pay it forward to ensure my shares pay out
And you buying YES makes it cheaper for me to become the recipient and steal the mana
Encrypt the following and send it saying it's the bias:
The bias is infinite you fool
You think I would dare bring shame upon my family???
(Thank you to anyone who bet NO though, your donation is much appreciated)
To be clear, this was not a fully formed idea and I have no idea if I would have gone through with it or if it would have been a good idea if I had, but I hope it's some further indication of the fact that I have always fully intended to pass it on
@Nat This is great! I don't know if this is good or bad news to you but I think this would still work in combinatorial futarchy, though might be harder to execute
@traders I want to explicitly encourage those listed in the market to state why they are trustworthy and can be held accountable, and for everyone else to interrogate these positions
@Quroe If it is, I short it
https://manifold.markets/Quroe/bens-shame-index-bsi?r=Q2h1bWNodWx1bQ
@Chumchulum This is true, though I hope that by saying this it gives opportunity to those with good reasons to air them without being accused of protesting too much
@Jasonb Also people can state who they would send the mana to, or by what mechanism they would decide this
@Quroe What an excellent idea, then again sending Tumbles the mana would be pretty funny
@Jasonb There is a world where Manifold gives a 5-minute 0% interest gajillion mana loan to Tumbles to successfully "double it and pass it on", and then fines the loan back.
everyone vote nobody, itβll be really funny i swear
@fluttershy If I end up not sending on the mana either by error or by defection, that option will resolve YES, just to minimise the prob of having to N/A this ;)