Funny, I posted a question about the subject before seeing this. https://manifold.markets/oh/which-actions-will-the-manifold-tea?r=b2g

Which actions will the Manifold team take to offload compensated labor on to users?

The Manifold team is underutilizing its userbase and ought to delegate more. Users are cheaper than employees, more informed & passionate than Fiverr freelancers, and more effective than Manifold employees putting off the task until they get around to it. Admins have already taken steps in this direction. Examples: Establishing the Trustworthy-ish role Automatically awarding M250 per referral, M5 per shared link Rewarding reports of exploits @SG awarding bounties for achieving virality @JamesGrugett awarding bounties for feedback Which actions will the Manifold team take to offload labor on to users? Criteria: Action is taken by a payrolled Manifold employee Action is executed via fixed system or continual action, ex ante facto Action is initiated (or newly-qualifies) after 10/4/23 Labor is performed by users who are not on Manifold payroll Labor opportunities are open to any eligible user Any eligibility restrictions are concrete and clearly stated Users are compensated (e.g., in mana, $, status, power) for their labor Resolves equally to all accurate, specific reponses. Edge cases will resolve at half the % of others. I will bet on this market, but consult other users before resolving. Closes in late Feb., as of now.

Does Wikipedia get sued for this?

@JonathanRay Wikipedia is a nonprofit.

@IsaacKing But Fandom, the wiki host, is a for-profit company.

@oh Wikipedia is run by the Wikimedia Foundation, not Fandom.

@IsaacKing Does being a nonprofit actually provide any exemptions from labor laws

@IsaacKing My point is that Fandom is a for-profit org that essentially asks free labor of its users, so if Wikipedia doesn’t count as a counter-example because of its nonprofit status, Fandom should.

@oh I don’t think nonprofit status matters here, legally or morally. It’s fine if consenting adults want to provide free labor for an online community

@JonathanRay Agreed, I was just arguing that even if we accepted her premise, it wouldn’t make a difference.

I'd sue if I was actually doing work beyond resolving old markets once every few weeks. Everything else is hobby & social interaction.

You're a magic judge, right? DM me tips on how to set up our Trustworthy-ish

class-action

@MichaelWheatley That is definitely what inspired this market. The judge program has pretty much collapsed, as the work simply isn't worth enough to be worth paying a serious wage for, and any attempt to solicit volunteer work results in legal action or reasonable fears of such.

mfw i do free labour and I don't even get sent rare collectibles in return :/

So how does that work? Who judges GPs now?

@MichaelWheatley We get paid just enough for large events to meet legal guidelines. (It's often far below minimum wage after factoring in travel costs.) All the rest of the program work is done independently by volunteers, with Judge Academy refusing to provide any support to (or often even acknowledgement of) those volunteers.