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I don’t see how this market was unclear at all. “Release” seems to have a pretty accepted definition of it being publically available. I’ve noticed more and more terminology of questions being changed after weeks because the market creator changed their mind on what they meant. Questions really should just be N/Aed if there is THAT much debate about what they mean.

Why was "announce" added to the title

It seems like El clarified what the title meant, in their opinion

Unlisting this market until we get a better clarification on what release means

@ian and someone should really ask about what happens if there is no "iPhone 17" but there is something else like an "iPhone 26"

Traders, I updated the title of this market due to confusion and questions in the comments. There has been considerable activity on this question and we attempted to gain clarity from the question creator but so far have not succeeded. Before betting, you should consider that you are betting on a market that has an unclarified ambiguity.

Keep in mind: Any form of intimidation, bullying, or begging the creator to rule differently is unacceptable. When the creator shows up and clarifies or resolves this market, you're all agreeing to whatever they decide.

@Eliza 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

@musuko384 If you really want to know if Apple will release an iPhone 17 on September 9, 2025, you can make your own market, clarify what "release" means, and I will personally add 1000 liquidity to it.

the market is crazy

@khang2009 for less crazy markets, I suggest finding creators with good track records and reading on their markets, or asking one to duplicate a market but with fixes.

Yes, I'm aware that's a pretty unsatisfying response, and I wish I had a better one to offer.

Is this market a prank

@ChadCotty wanna fill a larger order at 70%?

@bayesianbot Nooo decided to stay out of this one.

@brod ?

@Bayesian nah i have zero opinion

@ElIZNL5 does an announcement on September 9th of the iPhone 17’s release count as YES, or must it actually be available for purchase on the 9th? Given the strict definition of release it would likely be the latter, but this is not really a market with much reason for speculation if that’s the case, given Apple has always done iPhone announcements in the beginning of the week and made them available for sale in the later half.

@pm Don't take anything about the state of the market as authoritative in the absence of the creator's own comment.

@Eliza creator active 1 month ago. not sure what to do

@musuko384 Someone pinged them, so wait a day or two then see if mods want to step in to make a ruling.

The release will count as a yes.

@ElIZNL5 the question was if an announcement is a release, or the date you can buy it is a release, or something different.

@ElIZNL5 By “release” do you mean available to pre-order?

@Eliza it’s been2 days and we still have not received a clear response

@musuko384 I'm going to change the market title to make it more clear what people are betting on. As it stands, some participants know they are betting on ambiguity and others do not.