Are Palestinians entitled to self-determination?
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Based on a vote last week in the UN, the US and Israel think the answer is NO.

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The resolution that the US and Israel voted no on https://documents-dds-ny.un.org/doc/UNDOC/LTD/N23/318/77/PDF/N2331877.pdf?OpenElement also calls for "Stressing the urgency of achieving without delay an end to the Israeli occupation that began in 1967".

I'm all for any sort of two-state solution that will actually work, but just withdrawing from the territories "urgently" and "without delay" will just lead to a Hamastan 2.0 and so more bloodshed.

I found the explanation: https://usun.usmission.gov/explanation-of-vote-on-a-third-committee-resolution-on-the-right-of-the-palestinian-people-to-self-determination-2/

It's a little vague, but I think he's saying the resolution should also include Israel's right as well? Doesn't make much sense

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I have never been more disappointed in US foreign policymakers as I was when I saw the NO vote on Palestinian self determination. We might as well have voted against the Declaration of Independence. WTF is going on?!?

@BTE that's a good question, besides the bad optics they're for a two state solution? Which is self determination?

Is this like that veto they often do in the UN wherever it's against Israel's interests

@VAPOR No they could have abstained. Itโ€™s purely symbolic.

@BTE Do you know who made that vote?

@NathanScott What do you mean?

@BTE Like which US official made that vote in the UN.

@NathanScott Oh, well itโ€™s on Blinken but probably the Ambassador to the UN.

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