Will Elon Musk criticize Palestinians or Israelis on his visit to Israel? Confirms YES if reputable news outlets like AP, CNN, ABC report on it and characterize the comments as negative.
Example, a statement on Israel's disregard for child casualties and “Palestinians” needing to abandon a culture of violence would result in a "yes" market resolution. Conversely, a statement that Israel has no alternative but to harm children or that “Hamas” has a culture of violence would lead to a "no" market resolution.
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@AviSchwartz Appears to me this quote is not directed at Palestinians, rather it was directed at those who are members of Hamas.
The former paragraph you failed to include from the linked article:
Watching Hamas militants kill innocents illustrated how propaganda can incite people to violence, Musk said.
These people have been fed propaganda since they were children…
From your own resolution (note the use of quotations):
Example, a statement on Israel's disregard for child casualties and “Palestinians”
Can you elaborate further?
@AviSchwartz There is precisely ambiguity when the quote contains no mention of who he is talking about. This is further emphasises by the preceding paragraph I quoted. That is certainly a leap to say it unambiguously targets all Palestinians.
@vitamind “Today at 9:03 am est, "Richard Hanania" tweeted "I don't think that Palestinian hate can be explained by current Israeli behavior. It's clearly religion and past grievances that no one can change today. If hatred is based on things no one can control, you can't hope to decrease it to any substantive degree.".
At 10:14am, Elon Musk approvingly responded to this by saying "Kids are programmed to hate from the moment they can understand words"
This implies at the least 1. Palestinian kids are hateful 2. They are reared by general Palestinian society to become hateful.
(Note that the discussion he engaged in revolved around "Palestinians" generally, not Hamas, as per the distinction you made).”
@AviSchwartz Well I think that’s enough for me. You (indirectly) clarified to the user that posted this comment that this wouldn’t be sufficient for a resolution (since it’s a quote from X). The fact that you now need to bring this out to back up your resolution suggests that said resolution is not sufficient. Moreover you’ve also failed you show that the article,
characterise[s] the comments as negative
as per your resolution.
I’ll continued to disagree with your resolution, however thank you for creating an interesting question.
This can safely resolve No, imo. No derogatory statements were made by Musk which is corroborated by news sources I’ve seen. Moreover, Musk appears to have left Israel as reported by Avi Scharf on X (https://x.com/avischarf/status/1729218194555232324?s=46&t=_YmAecSVs2VA69S5x7G9OQ).
Scharf was quoted by the NYP when reporting on Musk travelling to Israel (https://nypost.com/2023/11/27/news/elon-musk-begins-wartime-visit-to-israel-aviation-tracker-says/amp/).
Cc: @AviSchwartz
@Me37ed Yes, any statement with a negative connotation would impact this market. In your illustration, you categorized all Palestinians as perpetrators of violence against Israelis.
@AviSchwartz thank you for clarifying!
Based on the specification you made here and general definition elaborated in your op I believe the market can be now be resolved as a "yes".
Today at 9:03 am est, "Richard Hanania" tweeted "I don't think that Palestinian hate can be explained by current Israeli behavior. It's clearly religion and past grievances that no one can change today. If hatred is based on things no one can control, you can't hope to decrease it to any substantive degree.".
At 10:14am, Elon Musk approvingly responded to this by saying "Kids are programmed to hate from the moment they can understand words"
This implies at the least 1. Palestinian kids are hateful 2. They are reared by general Palestinian society to become hateful.
(Note that the discussion he engaged in revolved around "Palestinians" generally, not Hamas, as per the distinction you made).
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1729156742561595734
@AviSchwartz hrm no and I would not expect it to happen. It shouldn't need to be verified though right? It is not unsourced hearsay, it is recorded on twitter for everyone to confirm?