IDF says today they have been carrying out raids inside Lebanon for months already. https://www.indiatoday.in/world/story/israel-hezbollah-conflict-idf-lebanon-offensive-raids-2609511-2024-10-01

Israel claims raids being carried out in Lebanon for months

Israeli military spokesperson said the details were being declassified, hours after Israel announced a ground operation against the Hezbollah movement in southern Lebanon.

@strutheo ground operation

@beaver1

Limited ground operation that stretches all the way to Tyre (half of southern lebanon) lol

https://x.com/IDF/status/1840890054819864776?t=uW5tqKyZB0tnlBcKFOvx0Q&s=19

IDF officially confirms the ground operation has begun, though suggesting it will be limited in scope

@strutheo Probably would be good to get a ruling on whether “limited, localized, and targeted ground raids” counts already or if this has to escalate further

@Arky @BaryLevy isn't this covered by the question description?

Resolves YES if

• Formal declaration of war on Lebanon or Hezbollah

• Announcement or commencement of ground operations into Lebanon to combat Hezbollah

I'm reading these bullets as an "or", and they've announced ground operations in the tweet above.

https://m.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-821158

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/09/30/israel-lebanon-hezbollah-hamas-war-news-gaza/

@strutheo How does this resolve if the operations happen as described here:

Would these raids by special forces without occupying territory count as ground operations?

@Arky i think this would count as a ground operation as opposed to say an artillery bombardment or drone warfare. it’s boots on the ground.

How has this not resolved?? Hezbollah has had its entire command structure decimated. Dead. Gone. What is the reasoning for why this isn’t an Israeli war in Hezbollah??

@datachef all that stuff is true, but is irrelevant to the resolution criteria, or can you explain which one is fulfilled?

@derpy what is a “formal declaration of war”? The IDF has repeatedly said this in an Official capacity. The Knesset in on war cabinet footing.

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@TallUntidyGothGF I think they do, but we probably have tanks crossing the border in the next few weeks anyway

@beaver1 next few days (hours?)

Reports of special operation raids in Lebanon: https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/israeli-special-forces-launch-raids-into-lebanon-ahead-of-possible-ground-incursion-bf2fe94d?mod=hp_lead_pos1

Israeli special forces have been carrying out small, targeted raids into southern Lebanon, gathering intelligence and probing ahead of a possible broader ground incursion that could come as soon as this week, people familiar with the matter said.

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In order to prevent the rearming of Hezbollah through Syria and Iran, the IDF imposed a military blockade on Lebanon. During the last day, Lebanese bulldozers were attacked from the air trying to restore the 6 land border crossings between Lebanon and Syria, which were bombed by the Air Force in the middle of the week. In addition, the IDF L has officially informed Lebanon that it will not allow planes to land in Beirut coming from Syria or Iran, as happened this morning. Civil movement will be allowed. Iranian ships may also be stopped off the coast of Lebanon.

https://www.ynet.co.il/news/article/rkzvloh0a

Why declare war when you can just ice the leadership and all the soldiers

OK DOGGIE DO NOT EAT THE HOT DOG. OKAY PUPPY? YOU DO NOT EAT THE HOT DOG NOW.

If nasrallah and the rest of hezbollah command actually are dead they may get into a succession war

@ShakedKoplewitz fat chance... Although we can see another civil war there.