Resolves YES if
Formal declaration of war on Lebanon or Hezbollah
Announcement or commencement of ground operations into Lebanon to combat Hezbollah
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1.00IDF says today they have been carrying out raids inside Lebanon for months already. https://www.indiatoday.in/world/story/israel-hezbollah-conflict-idf-lebanon-offensive-raids-2609511-2024-10-01
https://x.com/IDF/status/1840890054819864776?t=uW5tqKyZB0tnlBcKFOvx0Q&s=19
IDF officially confirms the ground operation has begun, though suggesting it will be limited in scope
@strutheo Probably would be good to get a ruling on whether “limited, localized, and targeted ground raids” counts already or if this has to escalate further
@Arky @BaryLevy isn't this covered by the question description?
Resolves YES if
Formal declaration of war on Lebanon or Hezbollah
Announcement or commencement of ground operations into Lebanon to combat Hezbollah
I'm reading these bullets as an "or", and they've announced ground operations in the tweet above.
@Arky i think this would count as a ground operation as opposed to say an artillery bombardment or drone warfare. it’s boots on the ground.
@datachef all that stuff is true, but is irrelevant to the resolution criteria, or can you explain which one is fulfilled?
@derpy what is a “formal declaration of war”? The IDF has repeatedly said this in an Official capacity. The Knesset in on war cabinet footing.
@derpy "Announcement or commencement of ground operations into Lebanon to combat Hezbollah" - do the reported raids [1] not count as commencement of ground operations? i can see how this may not capture the spirit of the title (otoh, the decision criteria themselves may not fully capture the spirit of the title depending on your opinion on whether the actions mentioned by the top level comment constitute war), but it's quite a fuzzy decision boundary, and 'ground operations' doesn't seem to be a technical term.
in any case, i expect this discussion will be rendered moot soon...
@TallUntidyGothGF I think they do, but we probably have tanks crossing the border in the next few weeks anyway
Reports of special operation raids in Lebanon: https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/israeli-special-forces-launch-raids-into-lebanon-ahead-of-possible-ground-incursion-bf2fe94d?mod=hp_lead_pos1
In order to prevent the rearming of Hezbollah through Syria and Iran, the IDF imposed a military blockade on Lebanon. During the last day, Lebanese bulldozers were attacked from the air trying to restore the 6 land border crossings between Lebanon and Syria, which were bombed by the Air Force in the middle of the week. In addition, the IDF L has officially informed Lebanon that it will not allow planes to land in Beirut coming from Syria or Iran, as happened this morning. Civil movement will be allowed. Iranian ships may also be stopped off the coast of Lebanon.